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Old 04-08-2014, 12:10 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Do you ever cite anything that's not self-referential?
Not when I am posting on my phone, tends to be too much of a pain, but if you like I can access that data when I get home with my laptop.
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Old 04-08-2014, 12:13 PM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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For the EL, delay is much more a problem due to the fact that there are so many trains and often so little time between them.There is as little as about 7-8 mins between El trains, so any delay has the potential to build and the delays can be caused by overcrowding, bad equipment on the train, maintenance work on track(usually done outside of rush) and so on.
This is a typical day at Metro Center in DC. Sometimes 2 or 3 trains would pass by before I would be able to board one.


Crowded like Sardines... on the Washington DC metro. - YouTube
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Old 04-08-2014, 12:15 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Wrong about doesn't suffer from delays. For commuter rail like Metra, there is a long period between trains like 30mins to an hour between trains and so delays don't usually build in the system.

For the EL, delay is much more a problem due to the fact that there are so many trains and often so little time between them.There is as little as about 7-8 mins between El trains, so any delay has the potential to build and the delays can be caused by overcrowding, bad equipment on the train, maintenance work on track(usually done outside of rush) and so on.
For Metra, do the trains run 30 minutes to an hour behind schedule with delays?

As for the El, that is an example of a neglected system over the years, that rail system needs a massive overhaul to be on part with modern technology.

Also 7-8 minutes between trains sounds like it's normal schedule than it does delays, so I am confused with that point you are trying to make.

Though I will ask, are those Metra and El trains full during those rush hour commute times?
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Old 04-08-2014, 12:16 PM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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You should peruse this.

Top Reasons People Stop Using Public Transit
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Old 04-08-2014, 12:19 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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This is a typical day at Metro Center in DC. Sometimes 2 or 3 trains would pass by before I would be able to board one.


Crowded like Sardines... on the Washington DC metro. - YouTube
That is pretty impressive, though I don't remember, DC doesn't have express trains do they? The Metro is another system that is in desperate need of an expansion and upgrade.
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Old 04-08-2014, 12:23 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Great article and an important factor on why transit in this country needs expanding and updating to make service more reliable and more efficient.
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Old 04-08-2014, 12:25 PM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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That is pretty impressive, though I don't remember, DC doesn't have express trains do they? The Metro is another system that is in desperate need of an expansion and upgrade.
No. But I'm pretty sure express service would cost over $100 billion. That's not going to happen in our lifetimes.

Either way, DC will never have 22.3% of its workforce getting to work in under 15 minutes like Dallas. Manhattan can't even achieve that with only 22 sq. miles.
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Old 04-08-2014, 12:35 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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No. But I'm pretty sure express service would cost over $100 billion. That's not going to happen in our lifetimes.

Either way, DC will never have 22.3% of its workforce getting to work in under 15 minutes like Dallas. Manhattan can't even achieve that with only 22 sq. miles.
Rail is like highway projects, you would expect any new highway in the metro to have a steep price tag as well.

Also, you will never see the amount of people Manhattan has walking for their commute than Dallas has.
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Old 04-08-2014, 12:37 PM
 
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Also, you will never see the amount of people Manhattan has walking for their commute than Dallas has.
What difference does that make if the average person in Dallas gets to work faster? That's more time to spend with your kids, wife, on hobbies, etc.
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Old 04-08-2014, 12:43 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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What difference does that make if the average person in Dallas gets to work faster? That's more time to spend with your kids, wife, on hobbies, etc.
Sure, commute times in NYC are much longer than Dallas, but Dallas has a metro population of 2.5 million compared to NYC's 20 million, so that is a bit apples to oranges.
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