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Old 04-14-2014, 11:43 PM
 
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Maybe JcPenney's can live if Sear's dies? Or maybe both r gonna die. Most malls in America have both those retailers. Lose both, then some working class and middle class communities will begin to lose their malls. Maybe their downtowns will come back?
Don't think so. Sears also has locations outside of malls that likewise would suffer. The reason why malls are suffering is they built too many too close together and then the internet showed up making it even worse.
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Old 04-15-2014, 02:27 AM
 
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Don't think so. Sears also has locations outside of malls that likewise would suffer. The reason why malls are suffering is they built too many too close together and then the internet showed up making it even worse.
Not just the internet, but convenience shopping. Lifestyle centers and outlet centers just make more sense because you don't have to pay for an enclosed facility and people can drive next to the shops they want.

Macy's, Bloomingdale's, Dillards, Nordstrom's, Neiman Marcus, Lord and Taylor, and Sak's Fifth Avenue aren't going anywhere. The upper middle class families will continue to shop there. We are now even seeing more Target and Wal-Mart stores going into malls. I think Burlington Coat Factory and TJ'Maxx will most likely come in and take over many JcPenney and Sear's locations.
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Old 04-15-2014, 05:35 AM
 
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Actually KMart Own's Sears .... Bankrupt KMart brought Sears In Bankruptcy, and then change it name to Sears Holding.

And can you spell Sears correctly?

Just like USAir (AmericanWest Took over USAir Years ago and took the USAir name) is taking over American Airlines and taking the American Name.

Continental Airlines, took over United Airlines and took the United Name ..
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Old 04-15-2014, 03:02 PM
 
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I have never understood the appeal of mall department stores, especially lower end ones like JCP, Macy's, and Dillard's.

Why shop for clothes at JCP when there are dozens of mall stores that specialize in selling clothes with more variety and lower prices?

I am not surprised at all these mall "anchors" are going away. I am not a big fan of American-style malls to begin with, so hopefully malls will be drastically reshaped with the decline of their department stores.
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Old 04-15-2014, 03:14 PM
 
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I have never understood the appeal of mall department stores, especially lower end ones like JCP, Macy's, and Dillard's.

Why shop for clothes at JCP when there are dozens of mall stores that specialize in selling clothes with more variety and lower prices?

I am not surprised at all these mall "anchors" are going away. I am not a big fan of American-style malls to begin with, so hopefully malls will be drastically reshaped with the decline of their department stores.
I would't say Macy's and Dillards are that low-end. Some of their stuff is, but they also have higher-end lines and stuff to sell.
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Old 04-15-2014, 05:17 PM
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Macy's is real low end, if you ask me. Dillard's, not so much.

Most of the more upscale malls do not have a Sear's or Penney's, at least around here.
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Old 04-15-2014, 05:51 PM
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Macy's is real low end, if you ask me.
As mentioned before, I think that might be a regional thing. Macy's is considered more mid-range here, and some of their stores do a nice presentation. Upscale malls here typically have Macy's but no Sear's or Penney's as well.
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Old 04-15-2014, 07:08 PM
 
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As mentioned before, I think that might be a regional thing. Macy's is considered more mid-range here, and some of their stores do a nice presentation. Upscale malls here typically have Macy's but no Sear's or Penney's as well.
yeah, exactly i know some upscale malls that have Macy's. Think of like Westside Pavillion in LA
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Old 04-15-2014, 08:12 PM
 
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Malls are moving up (Saks, Bloomingdales) and down (Target, Walmart, Marshalls); if Sears or J.C. Penney goes under it will kill a few more of those in the middle, but they're the ones dying anyway.

Macy's has several tiers of stores which carry different merchandise, which is why they show up in low, mid, and high-end malls.
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Old 04-15-2014, 08:32 PM
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Anyone remember Caldor?
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