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Old 04-15-2014, 08:43 PM
 
Location: Oakland, CA
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Macy's is real low end, if you ask me. Dillard's, not so much.

Most of the more upscale malls do not have a Sear's or Penney's, at least around here.
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As mentioned before, I think that might be a regional thing. Macy's is considered more mid-range here, and some of their stores do a nice presentation. Upscale malls here typically have Macy's but no Sear's or Penney's as well.
Yup, agreed. MAcy's has a pretty huge range in terms of store type, it is all based on location (and the surrounding area's income/feeders).

I've got about 6 or 7 Macy's in my 30 mile radius, and I have been to all of them. From Flagship, to low-income to upper middle class. They all have a different product mix.

The flagship store has higher end brands than most, and competes more with Nordies. It is also a bit messy since it is a tourist attraction too. The upper middle class suburban ones have nicer brands, are cleaner, and more spacious feeling. The ones in the low end malls are a mess, and don't have many higher end brands. They will carry mid range brands like Coach and Michael Kors, but only carry the lower end stuff from those brands. These lower income Macy's do not have nicer clothing, many business suits, and some even sell lots and lots of the hip hop influenced brands (Apple Bottom, House of Dereon etc.

Bloomies can also have a similar spread as well, surprisingly. The Bloomies in Palo Alto is basically a mid-range MAcy's in terms of brands.
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Old 04-15-2014, 08:52 PM
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Anyone remember Caldor?
Yes, but I don't remember much about it. Isn't that an eastern chain?

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Yup, agreed. MAcy's has a pretty huge range in terms of store type, it is all based on location (and the surrounding area's income/feeders).

I've got about 6 or 7 Macy's in my 30 mile radius, and I have been to all of them. From Flagship, to low-income to upper middle class. They all have a different product mix.

The flagship store has higher end brands than most, and competes more with Nordies. It is also a bit messy since it is a tourist attraction too. The upper middle class suburban ones have nicer brands, are cleaner, and more spacious feeling. The ones in the low end malls are a mess, and don't have many higher end brands. They will carry mid range brands like Coach and Michael Kors, but only carry the lower end stuff from those brands. These lower income Macy's do not have nicer clothing, many business suits, and some even sell lots and lots of the hip hop influenced brands (Apple Bottom, House of Dereon etc.

Bloomies can also have a similar spread as well, surprisingly. The Bloomies in Palo Alto is basically a mid-range MAcy's in terms of brands.
We have a Macy's in our local mall which is also one of the biggest in the metro area. It sucks. We went there looking for an interview suit for my daughter once. The clerks were very lacking of knowledge, the dressing rooms looked like what you might find in K-Mart, with discarded clothes strewn about. They didn't have her size (2!), so we ended up at Nordstrom's. It was more expensive, but they were helpful and had her size.

I was once in the Macy's in Boulder, CO with same daughter, and I asked where the dresses were. The clerk asked me who I was looking for a dress for (grammar?), and I said me. She told me they didn't carry dresses for misses, just juniors.
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Old 04-15-2014, 09:01 PM
 
Location: Oakland, CA
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Yes, but I don't remember much about it. Isn't that an eastern chain?



We have a Macy's in our local mall which is also one of the biggest in the metro area. It sucks. We went there looking for an interview suit for my daughter once. The clerks were very lacking of knowledge, the dressing rooms looked like what you might find in K-Mart, with discarded clothes strewn about. They didn't have her size (2!), so we ended up at Nordstrom's. It was more expensive, but they were helpful and had her size.

I was once in the Macy's in Boulder, CO with same daughter, and I asked where the dresses were. The clerk asked me who I was looking for a dress for (grammar?), and I said me. She told me they didn't carry dresses for misses, just juniors.
It amazes me how different the dress selection can be across stores. I am shocked most of the time. But I have now rated all the stores according to what I need and shop accordingly. The closest ones are 12 miles away, and they happen to the be the best choices in our region.

When I went to the Macy's in downtown DC, it has all kinds of suits. Very stereotypical Washington ones: boxy in brights and pastels.
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Yup, agreed. MAcy's has a pretty huge range in terms of store type, it is all based on location (and the surrounding area's income/feeders).

I've got about 6 or 7 Macy's in my 30 mile radius, and I have been to all of them. From Flagship, to low-income to upper middle class. They all have a different product mix.

The flagship store has higher end brands than most, and competes more with Nordies. It is also a bit messy since it is a tourist attraction too. The upper middle class suburban ones have nicer brands, are cleaner, and more spacious feeling. The ones in the low end malls are a mess, and don't have many higher end brands.
Is the flagship one the San Francisco one? Here's a photo I took:



Palm trees were a novelty. I'm most familiar with the "upper middle class" suburban ones. There's one on Long Island that is cheap feeling but that used to be a Stern's until it was a rebadged as Macy's. Stern's was a lower end department store in the Northeast, that at its end was owned by the same company as Macy's. The flagship one out in Manhattan has better selection but it's a pain to navigate and sometimes suffers from severe crowding, it claims to be the world's biggest store. There's a Macy's 5 miles to the south in downtown Brooklyn, the shopping cliente is largely black, I'm curious how differently it's stocked.
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Old 04-15-2014, 09:10 PM
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Yes, but I don't remember much about it. Isn't that an eastern chain?
Yea it was an eastern chain. Low-end a bit like a smaller Target or Walmart, but decent for what it did. Except for staying in business, which it wasn't so good at.
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Old 04-15-2014, 09:16 PM
 
Location: Oakland, CA
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Is the flagship one the San Francisco one? Here's a photo I took:



Palm trees were a novelty. I'm most familiar with the "upper middle class" suburban ones. There's one on Long Island that is cheap feeling but that used to be a Stern's until it was a rebadged as Macy's. Stern's was a lower end department store in the Northeast, that at its end was owned by the same company as Macy's. The flagship one out in Manhattan has better selection but it's a pain to navigate and sometimes suffers from severe crowding, it claims to be the world's biggest store. There's a Macy's 5 miles to the south in downtown Brooklyn, the shopping cliente is largely black, I'm curious how differently it's stocked.
Yup that's the one! The have Marc Jacobs bags (unlike most Macy's) and lots of higher end stuff. Also, all sections are HUGE there with better selection. You can really see the difference particularly in the shoe section.

It is a cool building. Next time you go, hit the bathrooms on the 5th floor. They are gold! Gold stalls, mirrors, everything. Also, they don't want you to leave. The ground floor has a food court and a post office. On the 4th floor is a Starbucks, 5th floor is a pastry shop from a former Top Chef contestant. Then there is a Cheesecake Factory (with great views) at the top, and Burger Bar on the 6th floor, also with great views.

As for the DC store, they had a Fashion Faire* counter. We don't have those in CA, it was replaced with MAC.

*FYI Fashion Faire was THE black cosmetics company, and they used to have awesome fashion shows, that were particularly popular during segregation, as the place to find black fashion, style and the bourgeoisie. http://www.npr.org/2014/02/15/276987...on-the-catwalk
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Old 04-15-2014, 10:20 PM
 
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Compared to other department stores (I'm talking stuff like JCPenney and Dillard's, not specialty stores/boutiques like Banana Republic, H&M, American Eagle, etc.), Macy's is best considered midrange. It's better than JCPenney and Sears, but not as upscale as Nordstrom and Neiman Marcus. In fact, Bloomingdale's is owned by Macy's, mostly to target the upscale shopper.
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Old 04-15-2014, 11:04 PM
 
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Anyone remember Caldor?
Yes, there was one at Carousel Center/DestinyUSA here in a Syracuse, but it went out of business within a couple of years or so.

What was interesting was the other day, I actually was in a small city which had a JC Penney's in a plaza, which is very rare. It essentially is the only department store in this city and if it ever closed, the closest department store would be about a 20-25 minute drive away. So, in instances like that, those communities may be where a JCP or Sears stays in place.
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Old 04-15-2014, 11:23 PM
 
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what would happen if sear or jc penny failed. nothing, nobody would notice
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Old 04-15-2014, 11:58 PM
 
Location: Folsom
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As a region, however, Sacramento is actually doing very well with lots of growth and at least somewhat strong economy. It's nothing compared to the Bay Area, but if you get up to the middle-class areas, it's actually pretty strong. So you have Galleria expanding, Arden doing well, the new Palladium (outdoor lifestyle center mall rather than enclosed) is slowly filling up although it's still about half empty. Definitely a slow start, but the half that's leased is actually pretty busy.
The new lifestyle mall in Folsom is called the Palladio. Palladio at Broadstone | Folsom, CA
It's a disappointment. It's filling up with expensive or useless or chain stores and chain restaurants. Whole Foods is the only store I visit regularly. I much prefer the outdoor mall in The Fountains in Roseville. Fountains at Roseville
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