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Old 04-28-2014, 05:35 PM
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I did my work there in the early 70s. It's amazing what a little 30 year recession will do. Braddock lost 90% of its population between 1920 and 2010. Population in 1970 was about 8800.
Braddock, Pennsylvania - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Town nearly disappeared. Might be the most declined town in the Northeast?
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Old 04-28-2014, 05:36 PM
 
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First, you're responding to something other than I wrote. I was only addressing whether the pedestrian was in the crosswalk, nothing more. Nothing more is implied.

I probably have done the same as the driver. I might have stopped to wonder where the pedestrian went, but it's easy to say that looking back. The story doesn't seem to be a particularly good strong example of driver (or pedestrian) negligence, just a sad story.
I didn't say YOU implied anything. I was trying to be diplomatic, for a change.

That was entirely my point, that "things happen".
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Old 04-28-2014, 05:41 PM
 
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Yes.... very, VERY annoying at best, and in actuality irresponsible, a huge safety concern as most people get impatient after 30 seconds or so and just try to cross before the light changes. ESPECIALLY if there is a bus stop on the other side of the street and the busses run every half hour...
You can not just change lights on traffic. There is an cycle and 30 seconds is not enough time for the light to turn from green to yellow to red. Cars do not stop on an dime.
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Old 04-28-2014, 05:46 PM
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Just to throw it out there, how would you view these communities/neighborhoods in terms of walkability? I'm only asking due to the ways posters view the term and the various degrees. I guess you can do it on a scale of 1-10.

https://maps.google.com/maps?q=matty...32.46,,0,10.32

https://maps.google.com/maps?q=liver...,319.4,,0,0.97

https://maps.google.com/maps?q=de+wi...,45.83,,0,8.73

All are suburbs as well.
1) Immediately area doesn't look too bad. Stores are rather spread out. neither are there many crosswalks. Particularly going south, it looks like there's a big gap except for this one, which looks cumbersome to cross:

https://maps.google.com/maps?saddr=B...,144.58,,0,6.4

2) Definitely the best of the bunch. Better intersections, and some useful shops. Some interesting architecture is a plus, and it appears it actually would get more pedestrians.

3) Looks ok except near the highway exit. But the T-intersections to the west lack crosswalks. Doesn't look like an area that'd get many pedestrains either, though those living right nearby could walk to it.
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Old 04-28-2014, 05:46 PM
 
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Just to throw it out there, how would you view these communities/neighborhoods in terms of walkability? I'm only asking due to the ways posters view the term and the various degrees. I guess you can do it on a scale of 1-10.

https://maps.google.com/maps?q=matty...32.46,,0,10.32

https://maps.google.com/maps?q=liver...,319.4,,0,0.97

https://maps.google.com/maps?q=de+wi...,45.83,,0,8.73

All are suburbs as well.
They are all pretty walk able to me.
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Old 04-28-2014, 05:47 PM
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I didn't say YOU implied anything. I was trying to be diplomatic, for a change.
Oh, ok. Sorry, just meant I was writing about something else.
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Old 04-28-2014, 05:49 PM
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You can not just change lights on traffic. There is an cycle and 30 seconds is not enough time for the light to turn from green to yellow to red. Cars do not stop on an dime.
30 seconds is short. But I've seen signals that create a yellow for traffic almost upon push.*

*One of the ones I'm thinking of responds instantly sometimes, other times waits a couple minutes. I'm curious how exactly it's programmed.
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Old 04-28-2014, 05:57 PM
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from an old post, here's 6 from downstate NY. Added two:

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Here are some more views. To all posters, which commercial streets would you find more walkable? Which would you want to walk in? Avoid walking if practical:

https://maps.google.com/maps?q=Larkf...251.6,,0,-9.73

https://maps.google.com/maps?q=Larkf...,5.39,,0,-8.35

https://maps.google.com/maps?q=New+Y...40.69,,0,-8.99

https://maps.google.com/maps?q=Route...2,1.87,,0,0.09

https://maps.google.com/maps?q=Green...2,1.99,,0,4.65

https://maps.google.com/maps?q=Queen...306.27,,0,3.93

there's no intention of cherry picking, the second link in particular varies, I had to pick somewhere.
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Old 04-28-2014, 05:59 PM
 
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30 seconds is short. But I've seen signals that create a yellow for traffic almost upon push.*

*One of the ones I'm thinking of responds instantly sometimes, other times waits a couple minutes. I'm curious how exactly it's programmed.
Depends on how much traffic is expected to be in the intersection. There are formulas that calculate the ideal amount of time each signal should have based on the amount of traffic in the intersection and there are lights that are controlled by sensors in the road. If there isn't any or much traffic in the intersection a faster cycle time isn't an problem but if people are arriving at the crosswalk piecemeal during rush that could be a problem in terms of traffic flow(let a few cars go by then turn the light so that an group of people cross the street instead of one. )
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Old 04-28-2014, 06:01 PM
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The one I'm thinking about has another traffic light to the south, so it'd make sense to synchronize a bit.
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