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Old 05-16-2014, 02:27 PM
 
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I was in Hollywood a few days ago for a meeting. I took the Blue Line to the Red Line. The station was full of people disembarking at my stop on Vine, including many people I was meeting with. If you want to make your point, this is not the example. Particularly with Google View as you're not really a pedestrian yourself.
I used to live in LA (Culver City) and been to Hollywood Blvd a few times as a tourist. It seems to fill up on the weekends when you see lots of people walking around. But I don't think it's a great example of a very walkable area when 99% are obviously just tourists. The very definition of a tourist trap, and a rather cheesy/tacky one.
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Old 05-16-2014, 02:41 PM
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Location: Foot of the Rockies
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There are some pedestrians in that google image, but very few relative to the number of cars. The ratio of cars to pedestrians is something like 10 to 1 (rough estimate going by the eye test). But I had to look hard to notice them. And most of those pedestrians aren't even really pedestrians. They drove to a store or an office building on Hollywood Blvd. and parked their car (along the street or in a parking garage or parking lot). Naturally once they arrive they have to actually walk from their car to the store. But that doesn't make them a pedestrian. A pedestrian is someone who has not utilized a private vehicle at all to arrive at their destination (or else all drivers could be considered pedestrians, making the term effectively meaningless).
That would cut the number of pedestrians in most places to near zero, outside of big city CBDs, and even then it would be cut to about 50% or so in most cities.
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Old 05-16-2014, 02:49 PM
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That would cut the number of pedestrians in most places to near zero, outside of big city CBDs, and even then it would be cut to about 50% or so in most cities.
Is walking that rare? That would mean everyone on the street (where there are pedestrian) came by car from somewhere else.
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Old 05-16-2014, 03:00 PM
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Funny you should ask! I just looked this up for another thread. Here is an article about commuters to downtown Denver (not just CBD). This is for working, not entertainment or "taking care of business".

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j...66917471,d.b2k

3.7% walked on the day of the survey. And here's something interesting, something I've been saying for ages on this forum:

**Males and females have different commuting habits. Male commuters are significantly more likely to bike to work, more likely to walk to work, and less likely to drive alone than female commuters.**

Also, Downtown Denver commuters are nine times as likely to use transit as the average U.S. commuter
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Old 05-16-2014, 03:03 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Funny you should ask! I just looked this up for another thread. Here is an article about commuters to downtown Denver (not just CBD). This is for working, not entertainment or "taking care of business".

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j...66917471,d.b2k

3.7% walked on the day of the survey. And here's something interesting, something I've been saying for ages on this forum:

**Males and females have different commuting habits. Male commuters are significantly more likely to bike to work, more likely to walk to work, and less likely to drive alone than female commuters.**

Also, Downtown Denver commuters are nine times as likely to use transit as the average U.S. commuter
That is good for Denver, I like seeing more American cities being like this.
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Old 05-16-2014, 03:04 PM
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That is good for Denver, I like seeing more American cities being like this.
You like seeing low walk to work rates?
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Old 05-16-2014, 03:06 PM
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Funny you should ask! I just looked this up for another thread. Here is an article about commuters to downtown Denver (not just CBD). This is for working, not entertainment or "taking care of business".

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j...66917471,d.b2k
I was thinking of all trips not just commute trips (for example walking to a local store). And I thought you've said suburbs have some pedestrians that didn't drive and then walk. As for the commute to work rate, ciscokid was discounting anyone who drove then walked. Transit then walking would count.
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Old 05-16-2014, 03:06 PM
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You like seeing low walk to work rates?
Let's not play cute here. He means the transit rates.
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Old 05-16-2014, 03:07 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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You like seeing low walk to work rates?
**Males and females have different commuting habits. Male commuters are significantly more likely to bike to work, more likely to walk to work, and less likely to drive alone than female commuters.**

I was referring to this, most people don't live within walking distance of their work, but they do live within biking distance of their work, as well as being able to use transit to commute.
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Old 05-16-2014, 03:10 PM
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Let's not play cute here. He means the transit rates.
I realized that after I posted, it read as silly at first glance. But still, downtowns generally have much higher than average transit commute rates so it's unclear from the numbers if Denver is doing well at transit-commute rates.
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