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Old 09-30-2014, 09:21 PM
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it has nice old architecture but i just hate walking around there, too many hills, too much traffic, narrow sidewalks.
I'd always walk extra in Ithaca. I liked walking with the hills (and up and down them). Got nice views.

https://www.google.com/maps/@42.4415...X--BjltqJw!2e0

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Old 09-30-2014, 11:18 PM
 
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Eww Main street is too wide and the sidewalks are too narrow.

we have a similar town with the same problem.
https://www.google.com/maps/place/St...b98ecdead8e88f

it has nice old architecture but i just hate walking around there, too many hills, too much traffic, narrow sidewalks.
The place looks like an run of the mill town and the sidewalks are not narrow. They are normal, about the only problem is perhaps the lack of stop signs or lights to stop the traffic for easy crossing.
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Old 09-30-2014, 11:27 PM
 
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I don't buy bulky stuff (more than needed to fill a backpack and maybe a handbag or two often. Except for maybe supermarket trips, but I drive, sometimes bicycle there rather walk. Though, occasionally walk to a small grocery for a couple items.
However if you used an car you could go to the bank, discount store, butcher, pet store and grocery store in one trip. If you walk, bicycle or use public transit odds are you won't be able to carry the weight. I'd sure hate to have to lug that 25 pound bag of cat litter somewhere without the car or pay for the shipping.
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Old 09-30-2014, 11:50 PM
 
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A lot of supermarkets deliver nowadays, you can order bulk items from home and they ship the whole kaboodle to your door for a few bucks. And you can get a rolling cart to facilitate the stroll to the corner market. Bikes can be fitted with cargo racks and trailers to allow a rider to pack a whole lot of groceries.
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Old 09-30-2014, 11:54 PM
 
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A lot of supermarkets deliver nowadays, you can order bulk items from home and they ship the whole kaboodle to your door for a few bucks. And you can get a rolling cart to facilitate the stroll to the corner market. Bikes can be fitted with cargo racks and trailers to allow a rider to pack a whole lot of groceries.
Those few bucks are an waste if you could have picked the item up yourself. While you can get an cart to stroll, an car can carry more than an cart or an bicycle an lot more. An car could carry an week or two worth go groceries freeing time to do other things.
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Old 10-01-2014, 12:00 AM
 
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A lot of supermarkets deliver nowadays, you can order bulk items from home and they ship the whole kaboodle to your door for a few bucks. And you can get a rolling cart to facilitate the stroll to the corner market. Bikes can be fitted with cargo racks and trailers to allow a rider to pack a whole lot of groceries.
We use to have the dog food delivered to us when I lived in Jersey because the nearest pet store that carried his food required almost an hour of driving each way and about $5 in tolls.
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Old 10-01-2014, 05:58 AM
 
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A lot of supermarkets deliver nowadays, you can order bulk items from home and they ship the whole kaboodle to your door for a few bucks. And you can get a rolling cart to facilitate the stroll to the corner market. Bikes can be fitted with cargo racks and trailers to allow a rider to pack a whole lot of groceries.
But why should I do all that when it's so much more efficient and easier on the back to combine all my trips into one ... with the car, which I already own, on an occasion when I'd have to take the car out anyway?

Oh, hey, and chewy.com has free shipping on orders over $50. I order 3 40-lb. bags of cat litter at once -- poor UPS guy.
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Old 10-01-2014, 06:04 AM
 
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However if you used an car you could go to the bank, discount store, butcher, pet store and grocery store in one trip. If you walk, bicycle or use public transit odds are you won't be able to carry the weight. I'd sure hate to have to lug that 25 pound bag of cat litter somewhere without the car or pay for the shipping.
If you don't have a car and live in a walkable area, chances are you won't need to do all your tasks in one trip. Everything is close by so you can just walk to whatever you need when you need it.
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Old 10-01-2014, 06:46 AM
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If you don't have a car and live in a walkable area, chances are you won't need to do all your tasks in one trip. Everything is close by so you can just walk to whatever you need when you need it.
Spoken like someone with too much time on his hands! Some of us don't have time to pop over to the store, bank, pet food place, etc 5 times a week or more.
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Old 10-01-2014, 06:57 AM
 
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But why should I do all that when it's so much more efficient and easier on the back to combine all my trips into one ... with the car, which I already own, on an occasion when I'd have to take the car out anyway?
Because it isn't about making you do that. It's about having the option to do that, for people who don't have cars, or even those who do have cars but don't want to use them for every errand, or feel that burning gas for a trip of a few blocks isn't justifiable.

The question here is, what makes a place walkable? It has a lot more to do with the ability to complete the tasks of everyday life, like getting to work or getting groceries, than lattes or craft beer. It doesn't mean you can't drive, just that it isn't the only feasible option.

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Oh, hey, and chewy.com has free shipping on orders over $50. I order 3 40-lb. bags of cat litter at once -- poor UPS guy.
Indeed, technology is making a lot of those questions like "how will I lug those cat litter bags home without a car?" obsolete.
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