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Old 04-28-2014, 08:58 AM
Status: "Summer!" (set 18 days ago)
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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Also drivers need to be more aware of their surroundings while driving, stop talking on the phone, trying to read a text message while driving, or fiddling with the radio when in areas that have pedestrians. And most importantly, slow down and lose the aggressive driving.
The car is bigger. Sure, they "should" do those things. But you really don't want to die with your pedestrian rights intact.
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Old 04-28-2014, 09:06 AM
 
Location: Oakland, CA
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Regarding safety from car-pedestrian accidents, if that's your chief worry, then don't jaywalk, and wait for the light to change. And pay attention to traffic anyway, even when you've clearly got the right of way. Don't use your cell phone, unless you know you can prioritize attention to traffic over the attention you devote to the phone. Don't be a "rights activist" in the street, but be ready to sprint on a moment's notice. And so on.
The pedestrian accidents here are mostly the drivers fault. Many times when they are turning on red. When they went back and analyzed last years incidents 2/3 were the fault of the driver and not due to jaywalking or any of those other things. Drivers do not pay attention quite often. Most accidents happen in the crosswalks, where pedestrians supposedly have the right of way.

Most of the time that is street design, the road is too fast or there is limited visibility of pedestrians at corners.
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Old 04-28-2014, 09:44 AM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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The car is bigger. Sure, they "should" do those things. But you really don't want to die with your pedestrian rights intact.
Well I would prefer the driver to not run people over to begin with. When I drice, I make it a point to be aware of my surroundings, especially for people not in vehicles.
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Old 04-28-2014, 12:55 PM
 
Location: Philaburbia
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The pedestrian accidents here are mostly the drivers fault. Many times when they are turning on red.
There are some intersections where the right turn on red clearly should be prohibited - congested intersections, intersections with bad sight lines for pedestrians and/or drivers, etc. Each intersection really should be evaluated individually.

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Well I would prefer the driver to not run people over to begin with. When I drice, I make it a point to be aware of my surroundings, especially for people not in vehicles.
Pedestrians need to do the same, and they don't always. When pedestrians are looking at or talking on their cell phones instead of watching where they're going, and step out into the street in front of a car, one cannot automatically fault the driver. You can be the most attentive driver in the world and still not be able to stop for an inattentive pedestrian.
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Old 04-28-2014, 01:05 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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There are some intersections where the right turn on red clearly should be prohibited - congested intersections, intersections with bad sight lines for pedestrians and/or drivers, etc. Each intersection really should be evaluated individually.


Pedestrians need to do the same, and they don't always. When pedestrians are looking at or talking on their cell phones instead of watching where they're going, and step out into the street in front of a car, one cannot automatically fault the driver. You can be the most attentive driver in the world and still not be able to stop for an inattentive pedestrian.
Depends on where the pedestrian is stepping out into the road. But you must remember, a car is going to do more damage to a pedestrian than a pedestrian will do to a car, therefore the driver needs to be fully aware of their surroundings when driving.
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Old 04-28-2014, 01:19 PM
 
Location: Philaburbia
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Depends on where the pedestrian is stepping out into the road. But you must remember, a car is going to do more damage to a pedestrian than a pedestrian will do to a car, therefore the driver needs to be fully aware of their surroundings when driving.
Read my post again ....
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Old 04-28-2014, 01:23 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Read my post again ....
And? You simply said step out in the street. When you cross a street at a crosswalk, you also step out into the street. Also, what if it is an unmarked crosswalk? Regardless, a driver should always pay attention to their surroundings, especially when driving in areas that have a lot of pedestrians because you never know when one might step out into the street.
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Old 04-28-2014, 01:28 PM
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Location: Foot of the Rockies
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Depends on where the pedestrian is stepping out into the road. But you must remember, a car is going to do more damage to a pedestrian than a pedestrian will do to a car, therefore the driver needs to be fully aware of their surroundings when driving.
In today's paper. Driver was not ticketed. Things happen.
Longmont woman slowly recovering from being run over in January - Boulder Daily Camera
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Old 04-28-2014, 01:43 PM
 
Location: Seattle, WA
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... Or the signal is timed so cars get 5 minutes of green and Ty walkers have to push the button for the signal waiting 3-5 minutes for each crossing.
Yes.... very, VERY annoying at best, and in actuality irresponsible, a huge safety concern as most people get impatient after 30 seconds or so and just try to cross before the light changes. ESPECIALLY if there is a bus stop on the other side of the street and the busses run every half hour...
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Old 04-28-2014, 01:46 PM
 
Location: Seattle, WA
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The car is bigger. Sure, they "should" do those things. But you really don't want to die with your pedestrian rights intact.
... I thought part of having a civil society is doing away with this kind of mob rule mentality? ...
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