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Old 04-29-2014, 02:45 PM
 
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I just read news of a planned lifestyle center off Dorothy Exchange in Grass Valley. A town of about 12,000 population in a county with 100,000 population. However, apparently there is a small amount of upper middle class and upper class living there and plans for growth. I'm also wondering how these centers can be "actual" lifestyle centers. I am thinking of El Dorado Hills Town Center. It's given the title of lifestyle center, has more population than grass valley, but doesn't have the tenets of a lifestyle center - gap, pottery barn, chico's, etc...

I just wonder if building in these small areas will really work?

Can anyone else think of examples of lifestyle centers opening up in small markets?

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Old 04-29-2014, 03:04 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Do you have any links or details on this? I have no idea where grass valley is or where Dorothy Exchange is.
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Old 04-29-2014, 04:38 PM
 
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Do you have any links or details on this? I have no idea where grass valley is or where Dorothy Exchange is.
Will proposed “lifestyle center” @ Dorsey Interchange cannibalize our historic downtowns? | Jeff Pelline's Sierra Foothills Report
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Old 04-29-2014, 09:36 PM
 
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Small lifestyle center? It's basically a strip mall, then?
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Old 04-29-2014, 11:59 PM
 
Location: Vallejo
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Copperopolis Town Square | Welcome

Population 3,600. It's not really in town, which is kind of hilarious considering it's apparently the town square. Not that there is much of a town.
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Old 04-30-2014, 12:51 AM
 
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Copperopolis Town Square | Welcome

Population 3,600. It's not really in town, which is kind of hilarious considering it's apparently the town square. Not that there is much of a town.
My gosh!! It's another one in a small town outside of Sacramento!

How do they expect these small town center malls to survive?

Look at the location lol:

Calaveras News - Breaking News for Calaveras County & Beyond!- The Pine Tree .net

It's like a little lifestyle center with no name brand tenets in the middle of the country.

I bet that center will be what the grass valley lifestyle center will look like.

I can understand how outlet malls survive in small towns, usually requiring large amounts of space on the edge of metro areas along major highways.
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Old 04-30-2014, 11:01 AM
 
Location: Vallejo
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My gosh!! It's another one in a small town outside of Sacramento!

How do they expect these small town center malls to survive?

Look at the location lol:

Calaveras News - Breaking News for Calaveras County & Beyond!- The Pine Tree .net

It's like a little lifestyle center with no name brand tenets in the middle of the country.

I bet that center will be what the grass valley lifestyle center will look like.

I can understand how outlet malls survive in small towns, usually requiring large amounts of space on the edge of metro areas along major highways.
Retirees/tourism.

Name brands aren't big in the foothills, never were and hopefully never will be. Bubble gum poppers on mommy's credit card isn't really the clientele that Murphys or Grass Valley is going for. It's mostly retirees, yippies. Most of those places are in population booms. Copperopolis grew by ~50% from 2000 to 2010 and has never had any shopping. Given, they got a bit giddy with the "town square" during the boom, but population is only going to continue to grow there.

Town Square was pretty well done. Grass Valley could go a little more retail. Town Square is really mixed use (retail, residential, professional, medical clinic coming soon). The residential was a nice addition and sold out while a lot of the retail was still empty the last time I was there. I looked at the Lofts as they're live/work when I was thinking of hanging a shingle. There just wasn't enough economy out there though.

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Old 04-30-2014, 01:18 PM
 
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I've noticed them popping up even in downscale areas. There's one Lifestyle Center in particular that has a liquor store, head shop, bail bonds, a family law practice, check cashing and payday loans, all anchored by a McDonalds.
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Old 04-30-2014, 01:58 PM
 
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Some of the lifestyle centers listed in this list are in the outskirts of metro areas:

Lifestyle centers abound - USATODAY.com
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