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Old 05-01-2014, 12:54 PM
 
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In the US, it is true that many rural areas have people leaving to the cities for jobs and culture/amenities, though since the US is so well-developed, it is not a strong draw, and there seem equally people willing to do the reverse and move to small towns or take up rural living, even if the balance is not equal, the net migration is not as strong in one direction. Also, the USA urbanized more gradually, and additionally, many newcomers to cities were immigrants, so that probably influenced the development of US cities.

By contrast, in many cities in the world, especially the developing world, farmers are flocking to cities rapidly and a lot of urbanization comes from domestic migration. Since urbanization is happening very quickly in the developing world, the character must be very different.

One thing I wonder is how much difference it makes when you get a fast vs. slow urbanization. Whereas in a place like Africa or Asia, you might get people who lived totally subsistence level a generation back, without running water, electricity or phones, into a big city, Americans and probably Europeans and other developed world people experienced more gradual innovations, from horses to streetcars to cars etc, from written letters and telegraph lines to phone lines and now cell phones. It was not a big jump from subsistence living to living in New York.

Do you get a lot of differences in the nature of urbanity if the transition is slow vs. fast? One thing that is definitely noticeable is that with the fast urbanization (eg. that occurs in the developing world) there is a lot less emphasis on preservation. A city in China, India or Africa might tear down old villages, temples, etc. and focus on building as fast as possible, whereas an American or European city might care about preserving a century or centuries old building, right?

What are the consequences of a city rising rapidly vs. gradually?
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Whereas in a place like Africa or Asia, you might get people who lived totally subsistence level a generation back, without running water, electricity or phones, into a big city, Americans and probably Europeans and other developed world people experienced more gradual innovations, from horses to streetcars to cars etc, from written letters and telegraph lines to phone lines and now cell phones. It was not a big jump from subsistence living to living in New York.
Eh no. Where do you think many New York arrivals are coming from? Somewhere in the third world, some in rather undeveloped areas. 100 years ago, many arrivals came from poor, backward rural places in Europe.
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