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Its really no different than now high can land cost go in cities and now do you service them .You don't parts get neglected while others get more because they bring in tax dollars. With boomers retiring and making up 26% of population even more rural areas can prosper and even draw young people to provide services thus creating jobs. many older smaller towns are booming again and boomers continue to retire for next 13 years.
Though, new construction is less dominated by single family these days.
1. a little slow on the uptake? My comment was over 2.5 months ago and made in response to someone that misrepresented my post
2. Don't know what to say about your numbers other than that they represent aggregates. There certainly has been noticeably shrinking lot size in metro areas in the southwest for newer homes.
1. a little slow on the uptake? My comment was over 2.5 months ago and made in response to someone that misrepresented my post
This old thread was bumped, I saw the comment and thought real data would be useful and interesting, including to yourself.
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2. Don't know what to say about your numbers other than that they represent aggregates. Your chart appears to be determining statistics from all housing existing at that time, not just housing constructed that year. It's not as if the existing lots shrink (except in the case of "NU" developments replacing existing housing). There was a lot of inventory to prevent the average from moving down quickly, however, there certainly has been noticeably shrinking lot size in metro areas in the southwest for newer homes.
It's new housing not all housing. There's no way the median could fluctuate that much year to year from all housing.
This old thread was bumped, I saw the comment and thought real data would be useful and interesting, including to yourself.
From an armchair in another state .....
I know what I see on the ground here - and again your numbers are aggregates for large territories not particularly specific for any area within the territory.
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It's new housing not all housing. There's no way the median could fluctuate that much year to year from all housing.
I revised my statement pretty quickly after posting it and yours was 3 minutes later and using the old data - were you just waiting by to comment?
From an armchair in another state .....
I know what I see on the ground here - and again your numbers are aggregates for large territories not particularly specific for any area within the territory.
aggregates give the big picture, your experience may not be typical. I didn't realize your posts were meant to be that local-specific.
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I revised my statement pretty quickly after posting it and yours was 3 minutes later and using the old data - were you just waiting by to comment?
No, I was in front of the forum and saw the post. Happens.
Sort of on topic but more a little of something I found interesting. This was just laid in the redone Dilworth Plaza right in front of City Hall in Philadelphia
I'm becoming more and more curious-how much longer can urban sprawl continue before it can stretch out no further? As suburbs are built further and further out, commutes will get longer and longer. The distance that this continuous urban land can spread increases as more and more jobs spread further out, and as highways are upgraded, but how much further can it go before it reaches critical mass? Eventually sprawl will have to reach a point where parts of the metro are so far from one another that they can no longer be considered suburbs or even exurbs. So how will urban sprawl play out once this "critical mass" is reached?
When the little house from the east bumps in to the little house from the west, we'll all have a party and call it a conurbation.
HSR, if it comes to the US, would definitely increase long distance commuting and sprawl. It has happened overseas. Particularly if the downtown areas near the stations are a good place to do business.
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