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Old 05-26-2014, 11:03 AM
 
Location: Vallejo
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It's not in the middle of nowhere. Zoom out a bit and you'll see old cottages on the lake. Lake Pulaski is a prominent lake that draws a lot of people.

https://maps.google.com/?ll=45.19437,-93.84423&z=17&t=h
Yeah, but they all drove there and parked on the other side of the lake where the park is.

It's one of those planning rubber stamp crosswalks that's needed for approval so we can waste more money but no one really cares about. Still, if you're going to do something stupid you should still do it right.
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Old 05-26-2014, 05:17 PM
 
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It's not in the middle of nowhere. Zoom out a bit and you'll see old cottages on the lake. Lake Pulaski is a prominent lake that draws a lot of people.

https://maps.google.com/?ll=45.19437,-93.84423&z=17&t=h
Okay not in the middle of nowhere. But as a lakefront community it should be an ideal place for walking, and attract a lot of foot traffic. But does not as you and others have mentioned. People there prefer to drive to the lake. Why? My guess is the houses are spaced too far apart, making the distances too far to comfortably walk. Kind of an odd place for a roundabout. Zooming out and panning the camera around for a few minutes, it appears to be the only roundabout for miles around.
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Old 05-26-2014, 05:47 PM
 
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Kind of an odd place for a roundabout.
Why is it an odd place for a roundabout?

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Zooming out and panning the camera around for a few minutes, it appears to be the only roundabout for miles around.
The closest roundabout is roughly 1.5 miles away across the lake, so you are right about there not being many roundabouts near by. What is the point of your statement though?
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Old 05-26-2014, 06:27 PM
 
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Why is it an odd place for a roundabout?
Because you have hundreds of similar-looking intersections in the area, but there's this one lone little roundabout that suddenly appears out of nowhere. It seems very random.


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The closest roundabout is roughly 1.5 miles away across the lake, so you are right about there not being many roundabouts near by. What is the point of your statement though?
Roundabouts are frequently used as a traffic-calming device and a safer alternative to the conventional intersection. But just having one or two out of hundreds isn't going to do a whole lot of good. So I wonder what their goal was here? Maybe its just an experiment or a pilot program?
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Old 05-26-2014, 08:20 PM
 
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Because you have hundreds of similar-looking intersections in the area, but there's this one lone little roundabout that suddenly appears out of nowhere. It seems very random.

Roundabouts are frequently used as a traffic-calming device and a safer alternative to the conventional intersection. But just having one or two out of hundreds isn't going to do a whole lot of good. So I wonder what their goal was here? Maybe its just an experiment or a pilot program?
Good points. There aren't many roundabouts in the immediate area (which is roughly 30 miles from downtown Minneapolis). However, if you consider the number of modern roundabouts in the metro region as a whole, there are now over 100 modern roundabouts. It's safe to assume that some of these roundabouts were chosen at high crash rate intersections. At this point, modern roundabouts are most definitely having an effect on reducing the injury crash rate for Minneapolis drivers.
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Old 05-27-2014, 09:57 AM
 
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It's not in the middle of nowhere. Zoom out a bit and you'll see old cottages on the lake.
Looks to me like the bad design is the sidewalk is on the east side away from the lake instead of the west side near the lake. If it were on the west side, you would never have to cross the road at all unless you specifically wanted to, so no need for the sidewalk to pass through the roundabout.
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