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Old 06-23-2014, 07:11 AM
 
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SInce when has anyone been forced to shop at a WalMart or Starbucks? If people want to shop at locally owned stores after WalMart comes to town they can. But most people whine and cry about how Walmart is driving out local businesses while shopping at WalMart because of the 'low low prices'. The same way they mourned the demise of the local book store while buying all their books at Amazon.
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Old 06-23-2014, 07:31 AM
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Location: Foot of the Rockies
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Starbuck's isn't a monopoly here. It's more independent coffee shops and Dunkin Donuts here.
Yes, Dunkin Donuts is ubiquitous in MA. They even got a mention in an article in the American Journal of Nursing, set in Boston.

Starbucks isn't a monopoly here, but we do have a lot of them. It's pretty much them and the indies. I can only think of one Caribou coffee shop here.
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Yes, Dunkin Donuts is ubiquitous in MA. They even got a mention in an article in the American Journal of Nursing, set in Boston.

Starbucks isn't a monopoly here, but we do have a lot of them. It's pretty much them and the indies. I can only think of one Caribou coffee shop here.
What would a journal of nursing have to say about Dunkin Donuts?! I have two Dunkin Donuts in walking distance, and there's probably two more joint dunkin donuts/gas station shops in <4 mile driving distance. NY has plenty of them, though a bit less ubiquitous. I was rather surprised that there were no Dunkin Donuts in the Pacific Northwest, Starbucks seems to have the same role Dunkin Donuts plays here. The Boston Globe site compiled a state-wide map:

Dunkin' Donuts vs Starbucks Massachusetts 2013 - Boston.com

Hilltowns to the west lack both, perhaps because they also lack many potential customers.
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Old 06-23-2014, 08:26 AM
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Location: Foot of the Rockies
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What would a journal of nursing have to say about Dunkin Donuts?! I have two Dunkin Donuts in walking distance, and there's probably two more joint dunkin donuts/gas station shops in <4 mile driving distance. NY has plenty of them, though a bit less ubiquitous. I was rather surprised that there were no Dunkin Donuts in the Pacific Northwest, Starbucks seems to have the same role Dunkin Donuts plays here. The Boston Globe site compiled a state-wide map:

Dunkin' Donuts vs Starbucks Massachusetts 2013 - Boston.com

Hilltowns to the west lack both, perhaps because they also lack many potential customers.
It was one of those "human interest" stories. I don't have the mag any more, but I believe a Boston homeless person told his nurse to get herself a cup of coffee at Dunkin Donuts and put it on his tab. Something like that.
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Old 06-23-2014, 08:58 AM
 
Location: Youngstown, Oh.
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We're on the other end of the spectrum, I think.

The only national chain restaurant in downtown Youngstown--that I can think of--is Subway, and it doesn't even have a street presence; it's in an arcade/food court. There is also a local pizza chain--Pizza Joes--in the same food court. Pretty much everything else is local. I say we're on the opposite end of the spectrum, because national chains aren't interested in locating downtown. Its resurgence is still too new. Even though we have two great coffee shops, I still hear people say, "if only we had a Starbucks downtown..."
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Old 06-23-2014, 09:30 AM
 
Location: UpstateNY
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LMAO our Starbucks has a horrible traffic entry ad a really poor location, the only reason they stay in business is the tourists and the indie unemployed who lounge their for free wifi. I never see anyone carrying their cups. One store in a city of 30,000.

And yet there are four Dunkins here.

In our town of 650 there are three local businesses, a general store and two bars. I go to the store for emergencies, everybody goes into the metropolis once a week to shop.
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Old 06-23-2014, 12:34 PM
 
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Starbuck's isn't a monopoly here. It's more independent coffee shops and Dunkin Donuts here.
Same up here, as I think that there are 2 or 3 Starbucks in the whole metro area.
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Old 06-24-2014, 06:25 PM
 
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Starbucks is nowhere close to a monopoly. The East coast has both Starbucks and Dunkin Donuts competing and the Northeast is almost solidly Dunkin. Both have the same lackluster coffee IMO.
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Old 06-26-2014, 10:54 AM
 
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In Albuquerque there is a dichotomous growth pattern in new businesses. Parts of the city that are growing fast, and mainly by middle-class newcomers from out of state, are driving the growth of big box stores and chain food outlets, while the inner parts of the city which is dominated by both enchrenched multi-generational residents as well as new urbanites (or what qualifies in New Mexico as such), many of whom are from the NY/NE area and PNW, have over the pat decade+, created something of a rennaisance of new independant businesses.

A correlation I have noticed, the more reliant a neighborhood is on driving, in terms of drive time/day, the more likely they are to patronize chains, whereas people who drive shorter distances, bike, or walk, i.e. live in older parts of town with a more compatible residence-services ratio, tend to be more eager to patronize smaller, local businesses.

As far as coffee goes, my neighborhood area has two Starbucks, one Dunkin Donuts (yes even in the desert Southwest!), and too many independant coffeeshops to count off the top of my head, but I would say at least a dozen.
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Old 06-28-2014, 09:22 AM
 
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Starbucks is nowhere close to a monopoly. The East coast has both Starbucks and Dunkin Donuts competing and the Northeast is almost solidly Dunkin. Both have the same lackluster coffee IMO.


I don't know if Dunkin Donuts qualifies as a coffee shop. People go there mainly for the donuts. They are a donut shop. McDonalds sells coffee too but are not considered a coffee shop. Not counting Dunkin Donuts would you say Starbucks dominates the coffee shop business on the east cost? I think they are definitely a monopoly on the west coast.
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