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Old 07-03-2014, 01:02 PM
 
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I have heard studies done that prove malls are harmful to a smaller city's downtown and a town's downtown. This makes sense because in a town with limited shopping, there is not enough population to support a healthy downtown and a mall and most small town consumers pick the mall over downtown because of free parking and bargain prices.

Now, I am wondering how would a big city's downtown be if it didn't have a mall in that part of the city? In a larger city, having a mall in a suburban area would make sense. The suburban dwellers most likely would go to the mall for convenance and the mall being so far from the downtown would not necessarily steal business from the downtown.

I know in San Diego and San Francisco, the malls are a tourist draw. In cities like LA and Sacramento, the malls really seemed to have hurt the downtown.

I think the biggest problem with malls in a big city's downtown is that is draws more national chains to the downtown and hurts local businesses. It also seems to drive up rent too.
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Old 07-03-2014, 02:23 PM
 
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I have heard studies done that prove malls are harmful to a smaller city's downtown and a town's downtown. This makes sense because in a town with limited shopping, there is not enough population to support a healthy downtown and a mall and most small town consumers pick the mall over downtown because of free parking and bargain prices.

Now, I am wondering how would a big city's downtown be if it didn't have a mall in that part of the city? In a larger city, having a mall in a suburban area would make sense. The suburban dwellers most likely would go to the mall for convenance and the mall being so far from the downtown would not necessarily steal business from the downtown.

I know in San Diego and San Francisco, the malls are a tourist draw. In cities like LA and Sacramento, the malls really seemed to have hurt the downtown.

I think the biggest problem with malls in a big city's downtown is that is draws more national chains to the downtown and hurts local businesses. It also seems to drive up rent too.
Actually, where I live is dealing with this now and it also can have an effect on other malls, but malls in general are kind of out of style. With that said, you are also seeing a resurgence in the Downtown area, but I think that it is slowed down by the presence and expansion of the mall, which is the 6th biggest in the country.
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Old 07-03-2014, 05:27 PM
 
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I have heard studies done that prove malls are harmful to a smaller city's downtown and a town's downtown. This makes sense because in a town with limited shopping, there is not enough population to support a healthy downtown and a mall and most small town consumers pick the mall over downtown because of free parking and bargain prices.

Now, I am wondering how would a big city's downtown be if it didn't have a mall in that part of the city? In a larger city, having a mall in a suburban area would make sense. The suburban dwellers most likely would go to the mall for convenance and the mall being so far from the downtown would not necessarily steal business from the downtown.

I know in San Diego and San Francisco, the malls are a tourist draw. In cities like LA and Sacramento, the malls really seemed to have hurt the downtown.

I think the biggest problem with malls in a big city's downtown is that is draws more national chains to the downtown and hurts local businesses. It also seems to drive up rent too.
It can steal business from the downtown and local stores in large cities. Malls were cheaper and faster to get to than the loop and drew business away from the Chicago's loop.
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Old 07-03-2014, 10:47 PM
 
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It can steal business from the downtown and local stores in large cities. Malls were cheaper and faster to get to than the loop and drew business away from the Chicago's loop.
Also, malls in downtowns are usually huge. The push to keep them not vacant is ridiculous.

I also was in LA a couple days ago and was in a suburb called Valencia. It was one of the worse, generic places I have been to. Worse than Orange County. Almost everyone was driving a new car, cops driving around with nothing to do but write tickets, cookie cutter condos and houses, cookie cutter parks, and the mall was huge and very generic. Nice, safe, clean, and VERY boring suburb. Had LA traffic and terrible LA air quality. But hey at least they paying the people good money to want to live there.

I think it'd be better if our malls were smaller and we didn't have as many, but we got too much in America.

I actually prefer malls from the 60s and 70s more than this newer mall I saw. I went to a mall in Santa Rosa called Coddington Mall and still had a 60s vibe to it. The mall sign outside was 60-ish and inside the mall they had an empty room where the malls wrapping department would have been. I also prefer to see malls having a bit of local stores like Coddington Mall had too.
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