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Old 05-01-2015, 02:46 PM
 
Location: Vallejo
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Metro-wide governance is clumsier when the metro goes across state lines.
Maybe. I'd say the MTA does a better job of handling things than the myriad of transit agencies in the Bay Area, however.
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Old 05-02-2015, 05:14 PM
 
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In California, it's hard to say what is a suburb and not these days since there are centers of employment scattered across all urban areas. A true, like a bedroom community, will have limited economic engines and be a place where people sleep, eat, and shop.

I think now a days the correct term would be a bedroom community. When I think of a suburb, I think of a suburb as a residential community within a large city like how much of the San Fernando Valley in LA was. It was clear the suburbs were bedroom communities to LA. Now, you can have a suburb be a bedroom community to several different cities.

Do any states in CA still use the term "suburb" officially anymore in any city planning policies or laws? If I believe correctly, there hasn't been a definition of what a suburb is since the 60s.
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Old 05-02-2015, 08:20 PM
 
Location: Florida
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No riots in suburbia.
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Old 05-02-2015, 08:34 PM
 
Location: Youngstown, Oh.
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No riots in suburbia.
Isn't Ferguson a suburb?
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Old 05-02-2015, 09:25 PM
 
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Isn't Ferguson a suburb?
Yup it is. Riots are based on the social and economics of an area, not on the fact if it's a city or suburb. Lower socio economic communities will have the police to people race war.

The only way sprawl can end is if water and resources end out. I don't see that happening because we will come up with ways around it. A suburb can become a city over the years as well just a city can downgrade to a suburb or ex-urb of another city over years.
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Old 05-03-2015, 11:14 AM
 
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Ferguson is a city.
Ferguson, Missouri - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
21,000 population is hardly a city
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Old 05-03-2015, 11:33 AM
 
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Ferguson is a city in St. Louis County, Missouri, United States.
Are you saying your link is incorrect?
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Old 05-03-2015, 02:20 PM
 
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Nitpick much? City and suburb are not mutually exclusive. Obviously Ferguson is a "city" but it isn't a city of any size; It is a suburb of St. Louis which was the whole point thecity was making.
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Old 05-03-2015, 06:16 PM
 
Location: Poshawa, Ontario
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Ferguson is a ghetto.
Fixed that for you.
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Old 05-03-2015, 06:58 PM
 
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Nitpick much? City and suburb are not mutually exclusive. Obviously Ferguson is a "city" but it isn't a city of any size; It is a suburb of St. Louis which was the whole point thecity was making.
Yeah it's a small city. I'm sure it has it's own economy, but since it's outside St. Louis I guessed it would be under the influence or a working class bedroom community to St. Louis.

I really feel that the 60s suburb, today's suburb, and a bedroom community are different things.

A suburb today can be a city under the influence of a larger urban area. Where as a suburb of the 60s, the one I think of, is a white-picket fence suburban housing developments with a mall, schools, churches, parks, markets, and a 80% of the population commuting into the city for work and usually incorporated due being able having large retail tax revenue. Today, that would equate to bedroom communities, which I think are more likely to be unincorporated communities (rather community service districts or under countys) that are mostly residential and shopping where people live and go to work in one of many cities.

While communities like Ferguson may have some people commute into St. Louis, there is probably a bunch of them who work in Ferguson in some low-end job and also work in another suburb.
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