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Old 07-21-2014, 10:57 PM
 
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I have no factual evidence, I merely am expressing my thoughts. In my opinion, if you have a lot of vacant buildings and neighborhoods why not relocate the the remaining 10% to a more built out area. I don't claim to be a city planner nor do i want to be one. I just look at numbers and see crime. My solution and ideas may be radical, but I think it's better than leaving Stockton and Detroit the way they are.
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Old 07-21-2014, 11:29 PM
 
Location: Sacramento, Placerville
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Closure of the naval base in Stockton has a lot to do with the current economic situation there.
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Old 07-22-2014, 03:04 AM
 
Location: the Permian Basin
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Maybe people don't want to live like transit dependent hamsters.
While true, that notion is completely lost on many people in this subforum, and in government.
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Old 07-22-2014, 03:25 AM
 
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Demographics.
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Old 07-22-2014, 07:01 AM
 
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Demographics.
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Old 07-22-2014, 07:03 AM
 
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The influx of large numbers of Norweigian Lutherans...
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Old 07-22-2014, 08:52 AM
 
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I have no factual evidence, I merely am expressing my thoughts. In my opinion, if you have a lot of vacant buildings and neighborhoods why not relocate the the remaining 10% to a more built out area. I don't claim to be a city planner nor do i want to be one. I just look at numbers and see crime. My solution and ideas may be radical, but I think it's better than leaving Stockton and Detroit the way they are.
Where are the vacant neighborhoods in Los Angeles?

Your solutions aren't radical, they're actually pretty old-fashioned, and people stopped using them because they don't work.

What numbers are you looking at? Where are these numbers? Is it some vicious gang of integers with switchblades?
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Old 07-22-2014, 10:01 AM
 
Location: Pac. NW
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As I understand it, the housing bubble caused property values to skyrocket, higher property taxes followed that.

With the increase in tax revenue, certain municipalities, notably Stockton, Maywood and Bell spent the money on local gov't salaries and pensions. When the recession came along and property values plummeted, these places were left with insufficient tax revenue to continue the obligations made earlier.

Anyone in SoCal knows about the scandal in Bell with the $700,000 salaries of some of the local politicians. And Maywood went out of business to the point of closing the doors at city hall.

These cities were incompetently managed.
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Old 07-22-2014, 10:07 AM
 
Location: Pasadena, CA
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Where are the vacant neighborhoods in Los Angeles?

Your solutions aren't radical, they're actually pretty old-fashioned, and people stopped using them because they don't work.

What numbers are you looking at? Where are these numbers? Is it some vicious gang of integers with switchblades?
That's what I was going to say.

If anything, Los Angeles suffers from the opposite problem of Detroit and the bubble-burst ghost towns. There is a massive shortage in affordable housing stock, making it quite overcrowded throughout the region. Los Angeles' solution is to build more and build up, not tear down vacant housing (which does not exist).
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Old 07-22-2014, 11:48 AM
 
Location: City of the Angels
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That's what I was going to say.

If anything, Los Angeles suffers from the opposite problem of Detroit and the bubble-burst ghost towns. There is a massive shortage in affordable housing stock, making it quite overcrowded throughout the region. Los Angeles' solution is to build more and build up, not tear down vacant housing (which does not exist).
I agree !
Los Angeles is just about sprawled out as it can get leaving verticle integration to be the only solution to packing in more people who want to live here.

The attitude of build it and they will come is still being played out.

Right now, the only thing that might slow it down a bit would be a massive earthquake but that basically would just help with making a decision about if something needs to be torn down because vacant land doesn't sit very long.
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