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Old 08-18-2014, 04:08 PM
 
Location: Syracuse, New York
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Football and baseball stadiums should be closest to the nexus of city and suburban wealth. Wherever that is.

For instance, if Portland got a football or team, I'd build an expansion of Providence Park because that's closest to where the money is going to be.
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Old 08-18-2014, 05:43 PM
 
Location: Cumberland County, NJ
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Philly has both - for better or worse for Philly they have all 4 teams play in the same area and share the parking lots as well as the subway access.

The Subway station at the stadiums has the highest single time boarding capactiy of any subway station in N America - potentially the world

The station was designed to simultaneously load 8 different subway trains at once. I believe the station was designed to board ~30-40K riders in 15 minutes (I don't believe it has ever met this volume however)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AT%26T_(SEPTA_station)

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Ci...0212debd7535fa
I don't see how Philly would be able to fit all of its teams in the downtown area. I actually like having the sports complex in South Philly. It would be nice if the Philadelphia Union(MLS) could relocate there in the near future.
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Old 08-18-2014, 06:56 PM
 
Location: Louisiana to Houston to Denver to NOVA
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Baseball stadiums should be downtown.
Football stadiums should be in an outer area.

Baseball seasons are long and can have multiple home games per week, bringing in a lot of summertime foot traffic to the downtown area. This can be good for the surrounding businesses and overall downtown vibrancy.

Football stadiums are used for 8 home games a year, so any kind of residual benefit would be negligible.
That makes no sense. New Orleans has the Superdome downtown, probably the best placement of any stadium in the country.
The Superdome is used throughout the year for concerts, conventions, etc and hotels are packed as well as streets whenever an event is held. Also the Smoothie King Center is right next to it which holds more concerts and conventions which provide the same boost to the CBD and French Quarter.
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Old 08-18-2014, 07:00 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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That makes no sense. New Orleans has the Superdome downtown, probably the best placement of any stadium in the country.
The Superdome is used throughout the year for concerts, conventions, etc and hotels are packed as well as streets whenever an event is held. Also the Smoothie King Center is right next to it which holds more concerts and conventions which provide the same boost to the CBD and French Quarter.
I agree it makes no sense. Mile High Stadium (actually Invesco Field at Mile High, but most people outside of Denver know it as "Mile High") is the same. Football haters gotta hate.
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Old 08-18-2014, 07:23 PM
 
Location: ADK via WV
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I think it depends on the city and the atmosphere. I like stadiums downtown because they are in walking distance to other great things. However some cities have a higher percentage of fans that drive making downtown stadiums unrealistic. More urban cities should have stadiums in center, more spread out cities should have them outside.
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Old 08-18-2014, 07:35 PM
 
Location: Fort Lauderdale, Florida
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MLB has 80+/- home games per season.
NBA has 40+/-
NFL has 8 regular season, 2 preseason and MAYBE 3 post season.

So, yes NFL stadiums have much less positive impact on downtown businesses and a larger physical footprint.

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Our NFL stadium is used for much more than just Miami Dolphins games. It is also used for UM Hurricanes games.

It is way outside the city and a giant PIA to get to. So much that the UM students will not support the team.

They would sell a lot more tickets if the stadium was downtown.

The Heat play in American Airlines arena which is also used for concerts. It is downtown and gets used a lot.
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Old 08-18-2014, 08:08 PM
 
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I don't see how Philly would be able to fit all of its teams in the downtown area. I actually like having the sports complex in South Philly. It would be nice if the Philadelphia Union(MLS) could relocate there in the near future.


The Philly sports complex is the best layout by far of any major league city. It is located inside the city limits about 4 miles from downtown, with plenty of parking and great subway access. There is no way Philadelphia could put the stadiums in or near the downtown area as Center City Philadelphia is built up just like Manhattan and San Francisco. Building stadiums downtown is for smaller cities that are developing or older cities that have lost population and can build stadiums downtown as part of an urban renewal project.

The stadium that started the bring the stadiums downtown movement from the suburbs, Oriole Park at Camden Yards in Baltimore, was successful because it brought fans and celebrants downtown, but many blocks were condemned to get the land to build it, displacing many businesses and over 5,000 jobs, many of which relocated to the suburbs.
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Old 08-18-2014, 08:24 PM
 
Location: West of Louisiana, East of New Mexico
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Jerry World aka The Death Star, aka Cowboys Stadium looks great, but I wish it were closer to Dallas. At the very least, I wish it was in ONE of the MANY suburbs that has public transportation. Somehow, 'ol Jerruh found the one DFW suburb with no real access to public transport. I guess it maximizes that parking revenue...
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Old 08-18-2014, 09:08 PM
 
Location: Seoul
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MLB and NBA stadiums belong downtown. NFL stadiums belong in the history books
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Old 08-18-2014, 09:21 PM
 
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That makes no sense. New Orleans has the Superdome downtown, probably the best placement of any stadium in the country.
The Superdome is used throughout the year for concerts, conventions, etc and hotels are packed as well as streets whenever an event is held. Also the Smoothie King Center is right next to it which holds more concerts and conventions which provide the same boost to the CBD and French Quarter.
Most NFL stadiums are not multi-purpose domes like the Superdome. They are outdoor stadiums that require large parking lots, which get used for tailgating. It doesn't make sense to put them downtown.

For the cities that have multi-purpose domes... Sure, put them downtown. But those stadiums aren't typical.
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