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Old 10-24-2014, 01:00 PM
 
Location: california
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Buying does not stop cities from taking land . the only thing that can stop this is
Patenting the land or Homesteading it.
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Old 10-24-2014, 01:27 PM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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Section 8 won't necessarily stop displacement. A lot of renters are already on Section 8. Their voucher, however, might not be enough to keep pace with rent increases.
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Old 10-24-2014, 02:48 PM
 
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Likewise with ownership; it can be a great program, depending on location, if a person can manage to own.

The poster I responded to acts like there is no assistance for renters, I merely pointed out one program that is available for renters.
Yes, assistance does exist from a binary yes-or-no perspective. But that says nothing of the quality of that assistance. And it's the quality and efficacy of that assistance that really matters.
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Old 10-24-2014, 08:15 PM
 
Location: Oakland, CA
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Yes, that is yet another incentive for owning. You however, cannot get over the fact that renters do not own, thus are not afforded the same authority over the home they live in? You are too caught up in "they live in this place" rather than "they own this place"; to you, ownership is secondary to the renter.

There are numerous programs available for low income renters, ever hear of Section 8?
Section 8 housing nearish to job centers had about an 8 year waiting list in my region. Not sure it is that helpful if your odds of getting it are 1%.
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Old 10-24-2014, 08:49 PM
 
Location: Vallejo
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Section 8 housing nearish to job centers had about an 8 year waiting list in my region. Not sure it is that helpful if your odds of getting it are 1%.
Section 8 doesn't tend to work well in places where people want to live. As a landlord, you'll just elect to not jump through all the hoops the government puts in place on section 8 properties and just rent to people that are willing to pay to rent your property.
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Old 10-24-2014, 11:46 PM
 
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Yes, that is yet another incentive for owning. You however, cannot get over the fact that renters do not own, thus are not afforded the same authority over the home they live in? You are too caught up in "they live in this place" rather than "they own this place"; to you, ownership is secondary to the renter.

There are numerous programs available for low income renters, ever hear of Section 8?

Can we just admit that government participates in class warfare and that the poor are NOT winning?

Can we admit that government hinders ownership opportunities for single adults and especially for the poor?
Al those 10,000 sq ft 3BR properties are useless to those who can afford (but cannot find) only a 2500 sq ft 1BR.

Who actually gets Section 8? Seniors and families with children (mostly single parents). I couldn't even GET ON THE WAITING LIST in Portland.

And why does Section 8 assist a few people to rent apartments or houses when for less money it could assist far more people to rent rooms? Obviously the program is biased toward seniors and families with children.
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Old 10-24-2014, 11:51 PM
 
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Likewise with ownership; it can be a great program, depending on location, if a person can manage to own.

The poster I responded to acts like there is no assistance for renters, I merely pointed out one program that is available for renters.

Let's admit that government assistance to homeowners far far exceeds government assistance to renters. Billions and billions in tax breaks for example. Not to mention zoning and NIMBY policies designed to boost property values and rents and thereby line the pockets of homeowners and landlords.
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Old 10-25-2014, 11:18 AM
 
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And why does Section 8 assist a few people to rent apartments or houses when for less money it could assist far more people to rent rooms? Obviously the program is biased toward seniors and families with children.
For good reasons. Seniors are less able to work due to age, and families are more expensive than singles. Renting an room isn't very practical esp. towards families.
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Old 10-25-2014, 11:54 AM
 
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Can we just admit that government participates in class warfare and that the poor are NOT winning?

Can we admit that government hinders ownership opportunities for single adults and especially for the poor?
Al those 10,000 sq ft 3BR properties are useless to those who can afford (but cannot find) only a 2500 sq ft 1BR.
Try condos there are plenty of 1 bedroom condos at low prices. Try older houses where smaller 2 bedroom places are often still standing.
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Old 10-27-2014, 12:51 PM
 
Location: East of Seattle since 1992, originally from SF Bay Area
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In our city there was a large apartment project built in the 90s and the county required a small percentage of section 8 units. They look like the rest but are smaller and off in the back corner. The typical residents are taking the bus 20-30 miles away since we are a bedroom community of 50,000 with no jobs other than two small strip malls.
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