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Old 09-17-2014, 07:00 PM
 
Location: Montana
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I'm asking this because people over in KC forum are debating this topic, so I thought I would ask neutral people the question.

This has never been a question for me. I'm talking about the Country Club Plaza district of Kansas City, MO.

While this area started as a suburban area several miles from Downtown Kansas City in the 1920's and was designed around the automobile (actually the first such shopping center in the country), the area is now a dense, mixed use urban district of high rise hotels, offices and residences. The area is walkable and has parks, good transit and is nearby museums and college campuses. There are almost no surface parking lots etc. So despite many of the retail stores and restaurants being chains (Cheesecake Factory and Gap for example), it's urban to me.

This is a serious question. I'm not saying this area of KC is even comparable to outlying districts of Chicago or NYC or even LA, but to me it's urban and that's from somebody that has been to every major city in North America and lives in the DC/Baltimore region.

I actually work in Silver Spring, MD and personally think that downtown Silver Spring is also urban and very comparable in size and feel to KC's plaza. Silver Springs was probably considerably smaller a decade ago, but it has built up significantly in the past ten years with high rise buildings and ground level retail.

Anywhere, here are some aerials of the Plaza area of KC. If people are interested, I could dig up some street level photos as well.

But please do provide some feedback. I would like to hear people's opinions.








Sort of... kind of reminds me of Alexandria.
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Old 09-17-2014, 09:35 PM
 
Location: Somewhere in America
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If this is not urban, then I don't know what is! I mean every place isn't going to be Manhattan....thank god for that!
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Old 09-17-2014, 10:13 PM
 
Location: Folsom
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Looks urban (& awful) to me
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Old 09-18-2014, 09:59 AM
 
Location: Pittsburgh, PA (Morningside)
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Pretty much looks urban to me. Although I'd have to see the activity at street level to really know for sure. IMHO urbanity basically boils down to:

1. Moderate-to-high density development (anything from semi-attached housing on up).
2. A mixture of housing, employment centers, and retail/entertainment.
3. Active street life.

It looks like this area fits on all three measures. It's clearly not one of those sterile suburban commercial highrise areas which are unwalkable. It's also not an ersatz urban area which empties out at 5PM. There are way too many parking garages for my tastes (albeit semi-hidden) but otherwise it seems to be a pretty good example of a "postclassic" urban area.
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Old 09-21-2014, 01:43 AM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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It looks urban to me.
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Old 09-23-2014, 10:23 PM
 
Location: Washington, DC area
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Here are some photos that are not aerials.





































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Old 09-23-2014, 11:29 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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In its own right, it looks like a pretty neat city from the sky and the streets.
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