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Old 11-13-2014, 01:38 PM
 
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Of these two, which is the worst location to live?

1) Single family homes on busy suburban arterial (speed limit 35-40 mph)

2) Residential buildings on busy urban arterial


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Either way, it's not much better than being located on the freeway. Noise pollution from the cars and trucks would probably drive most insane. Either seems like a very stressful place to live. How would you like to have a constant stream of cars, city buses, large commercial trucks, emergency vehicles with their sirens wailing, etc. passing by your doorstep every 5 seconds?



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Old 11-13-2014, 01:43 PM
 
Location: bend oregon
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at least you dont have to walk a long ways to catch the bus and there wouldnt be a lot of cars when your going to bed, unless you work grave yard.
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Old 11-13-2014, 01:45 PM
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For me it would depend on the city which is worse.
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Old 11-13-2014, 02:47 PM
 
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That's not even an especially bad suburban arterial example. Take a look at Hillsdale Avenue in San Jose, CA. Six lanes, lots of traffic regularly moving at 55+ and it has houses on it.
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Old 11-13-2014, 02:59 PM
 
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at least you dont have to walk a long ways to catch the bus and there wouldnt be a lot of cars when your going to bed, unless you work grave yard.
If I had to choose I'd also go with 2) because of the benefits of living in the city.
Whereas with 1) you have the noise of the big city but none of its benefits, the worst of both worlds.
But neither is ideal.

My ideal is an urban street where cars are eliminated or severely restricted.
Of course for those who prefer suburban living the ideal location is the cul de sac where you have total silence.
Peace and quiet is good but too much peace and quiet feels like living in a ghost town, which to me is not ideal.
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Old 11-13-2014, 03:24 PM
 
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That's not even an especially bad suburban arterial example. Take a look at Hillsdale Avenue in San Jose, CA. Six lanes, lots of traffic regularly moving at 55+ and it has houses on it.
San Jose is terribly traffic-congested for the most part, but does have one small but interesting example of what a less car-oriented street could look like. With emphasis on the small, since most who lived in San Jose all their lives probably never heard of it.

372 Santana Row

Notice the huge pedestrian median in the middle with just a one-lane street for the cars on either side.
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Old 11-13-2014, 09:54 PM
 
Location: Oakland, CA
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San Jose is terribly traffic-congested for the most part, but does have one small but interesting example of what a less car-oriented street could look like. With emphasis on the small, since most who lived in San Jose all their lives probably never heard of it.

372 Santana Row

Notice the huge pedestrian median in the middle with just a one-lane street for the cars on either side.
Santana Row is a mall not a neighborhood. Those are private roads surrounded by businesses and residences.
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Old 11-13-2014, 10:01 PM
 
Location: Oakland, CA
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There is a legit walkable are in San Jose: Willow Glen
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Old 11-13-2014, 11:35 PM
 
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Santana Row is a mall not a neighborhood. Those are private roads surrounded by businesses and residences.
lol. Santana Row is not a shopping mall. People live there (its mixed use).



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There is a legit walkable are in San Jose: Willow Glen
The question is would you want to live there, on a major street that has a lot of car traffic.

Willow Glen
http://static.squarespace.com/static...G?format=1000w

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Old 11-14-2014, 12:22 PM
 
Location: Thunder Bay, ON
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Well, I'd definitely rather live here
https://www.google.ca/maps/@43.64579...rI9V-Wj78A!2e0

Than near this part of Lawrence East which could be the worst stretch of suburban arterial with housing in Toronto. Aside from being relatively poor and somewhat high crime, it's also pretty isolated (far flung, poor transit, poor walkability).
https://www.google.ca/maps/@43.76593...BAMfC66akQ!2e0

BTW crime rates in the suburban area are about 1.5x higher, even though the first one was known as Clubland with lots of nightclubs and bars (though several nightclubs have been pushed out by the condo boom). The suburban area might have about 3x more crime than a more average downtown neighbourhood.

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