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Old 12-27-2014, 05:55 AM
 
Location: Philadelphia, PA
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Just because you don't live near ghetto white people doesn't mean they don't exist but if you're unsure of their existence or whereabouts you can go to almost any neighborhood in Philadelphia east of Broad St. Similar neighborhoods exist in the outer boroughs of NYC, Boston, Baltimore, Pittsburgh, Cleveland, Chicago, etc. Rural white poverty is a lot more pervasive than urban/suburban white poverty in this country but it's hardly black & white.
The one big difference between the white trash and ghetto blacks is the ghetto blacks are much more violent. Yeah, the white trash will fight, but they're not as quick to pull out a gun. There were/is some funky ass white neighborhoods in Philadelphia, but you didn't/don't have the amount of rapes and murders as in the black ghettos.
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Old 12-27-2014, 09:19 AM
 
Location: Minneapolis
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The one big difference between the white trash and ghetto blacks is the ghetto blacks are much more violent. Yeah, the white trash will fight, but they're not as quick to pull out a gun. There were/is some funky ass white neighborhoods in Philadelphia, but you didn't/don't have the amount of rapes and murders as in the black ghettos.
Define 'violence'. Would you say pulling out a gun is more violent than incest, domestic abuse, cutting kids up, eating them and storing them in the freezer? 'Cause when it comes to 'more violent' when I look at the psycho/serial killer/mass murderer photos and tv shows it sure ain't black folks I'm lookin' at.

Funny though, white guys can have sniper rifles on federal agents and that's not 'more violent', that's....FREEDOM!!!!!
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Old 12-27-2014, 09:23 AM
 
Location: Philadelphia, PA
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Define 'violence'. Would you say pulling out a gun is more violent than incest, domestic abuse, cutting kids up, eating them and storing them in the freezer? 'Cause when it comes to 'more violent' when I look at the psycho/serial killer/mass murderer photos and tv shows it sure ain't black folks I'm lookin' at.

Funny though, white guys can have sniper rifles on federal agents and that's not 'more violent', that's....FREEDOM!!!!!
I'm comparing poor white neighborhoods to poor black neighborhoods ... the black ones have many more instances of violent crime.
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Old 12-27-2014, 09:32 AM
 
Location: Minneapolis
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This is very true. It's an "inconvenient truth" to admit, but it's the truth nonetheless. High crime rates go hand in hand with non-decent black folks, and once they start moving into an area, the quality of life will drastically decline.
Define 'high crime rate'. Utter stupidity of the post aside, it's pretty sad to see how someone can so easily be suckered into thinking that blacks have higher crime rates without discussing the accuracy of crime statistics, police reporting, and street to prison as part of a private enterprise.

Black person with a gun = OMG, crazzy kneegros!!!!
White guy with a gun = My rights!!! Freedom!!!! (even when trained on FEDERAL AGENTS as in Nevada)

And yet when I watch TV and they talk about so and so killing off six at a time, dozen at a time, stalkers, kids who massacre other kids, people with so many serials kills under their belt the police can't tell if they got away with more.... If we are going to off perception, then I gotta say all these faces are white. All these crazy-eyed mass murderers are palefaces. Black people at least have the 'excuse' of poverty and discrimination. What excuse does a middle aged white guy have to chop up kids and store them in the freezer? What excuse does a white boy from a middle class family have to walk into a school with semi automatics and kill everything in sight? and these incidents happen over and over and over and over and over.

But you know black man has a gun, or is staring at me, so shoot him or whatever.

Meanwhile that awesome white neighbor next door is probably a child pornographer with a snuff fetish. But hey, FREEEDOOOOM!!!!!
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Old 12-27-2014, 09:47 AM
 
Location: Minneapolis
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Harper woods, Michigan, went from 85% white and 10% black in just 2000 to less then half white and 45% black in a matter of 10 years. If white flight is occurring here, is it occurring in other places in the US? Does white flight pose similar problems to communities than it did in the 50's/60's?
There is no 'white flight' nationwide. Part of the stupidity of the 'high crime' posts above is that they ignore the fact that crime has actually decreased by large margin since 1990. Nationwide. Nothing to do withy Giuliani, nothing to do with 'better policing'. In fact no one actually knows why. But it gets even better, not only has crime decreased nationwide but it has also decreased GLOBALLY. That's right. Globally. Even the Economist had an article about it not long ago, and that's as richie-richie centrist as you're gonna get. They have no idea why. No one does, but everyone is willing to take credit.

So how is someone going to say this and that about black people and crime when in fact the crime rate is the lowest it's been in ages nationally and globally.

There is no 'white flight' nationwide. Unless by 'flight' one means a rush BACK to the 'scary' 'inner city' where they can throw up as many condos as possible. But conveniently it's rarely mentioned that hey the 'urban' environment hasn't been 'scary' for decades.

THAT is the reason why people are moving back to the cities. Cities are no longer associated with high crime because the crime rates have dropped. But we don't hear that part of the equation. We hear the awesome 'revitalization' opportunities and 'environmental factors', etc.
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Old 12-27-2014, 09:53 AM
 
Location: Minneapolis
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The one big difference between the white trash and ghetto blacks is the ghetto blacks are much more violent. Yeah, the white trash will fight, but they're not as quick to pull out a gun. There were/is some funky ass white neighborhoods in Philadelphia, but you didn't/don't have the amount of rapes and murders as in the black ghettos.
I'd also like to add that pretty much the same thing was said about the Irish, Italians, and Eastern European immigrants not even a hundred years ago ("No Irish Need Apply").
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Old 12-27-2014, 10:00 AM
 
Location: Philadelphia, PA
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I'd also like to add that pretty much the same thing was said about the Irish, Italians, and Eastern European immigrants not even a hundred years ago ("No Irish Need Apply").
Even with all the white murders you described, black males between the ages of 18 and 34 still murder at a much higher rate than any demographic in the country. Fact is: Poor black neighborhoods are much more violent than poor white neigborhoods.
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Old 12-27-2014, 11:30 AM
 
Location: Metro Detroit Area, Michigan
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I wish I could find the article. It talked about the reverse flight. Blacks moving out of the city of Detroit to the suburbs while Whites are moving back to the city. Rental prices have gone up and there is a huge demand for apartment/condo's in Midtown and Downtown.
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Old 12-27-2014, 12:03 PM
 
Location: Clinton Township, MI
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The one big difference between the white trash and ghetto blacks is the ghetto blacks are much more violent. Yeah, the white trash will fight, but they're not as quick to pull out a gun. There were/is some funky ass white neighborhoods in Philadelphia, but you didn't/don't have the amount of rapes and murders as in the black ghettos.
YES, took the words right out of my mouth (or out of my keyboard lol). So here's the thing, trash is trash, but black trash has a worse SMELL to it than white trash. White trash smells like spoiled food, Black trash smells like a DEAD BODY.

But trash is still trash, everybody reading this post you want to make sure you work hard and make at least $50,000 a year as an individual in a solid cost of living area. This will allow you to move into a decent Suburb with higher rent prices and house prices, in which these pieces of TRASH of society can't afford to stay and there's no Section 8 vouchers allowed.

Keep the trash "over there" and let's keep the quality of life "over here". Stay mobile, don't buy a house unless you can forecast that the area will remain the same for at least 30 years. I'm not buying a house, I want to remain mobile so if the area I'm in begins to turn into a ghetto with TRASH moving in, stinking up the area, then I will be able to MOVE out at anytime and run to another Suburb without the TRASH all over the place.

Damn it feels good to be free
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Old 12-27-2014, 12:14 PM
 
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Harper woods, Michigan, went from 85% white and 10% black in just 2000 to less then half white and 45% black in a matter of 10 years. If white flight is occurring here, is it occurring in other places in the US? Does white flight pose similar problems to communities than it did in the 50's/60's?
It depends on the make up and economic status of the neighborhood. So long as they do not allow section 8 housing or some other lower income people to move in, neighborhoods can become more mixed. Another words, in many cases it has to do with income levels rather than race. If an upper class black family moves into Beverly Hills, you are not going to get broken down cars sitting in the front yard, people sitting on the porch all day drinking/smoking etc.
However if you live in a lower income neighborhood, and you get a bunch of white hillbillies who move in, people will want to move because of what they will start doing. For instance letting dogs run wild, broken down refrigerators left on the side of the house, domestic fights in the street, etc.

Much of "white flight" was based on the neighborhood going down hill (i.e. property values going down, crime going up, etc.) than strictly race. Eventually birds of a feather will flock together, it is just in human nature, despite Utopian wishes to the contrary. So once a certain % of people move in (black, brown, yellow, etc.), others will follow, eventually displacing the former racial majority.

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