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Old 12-31-2014, 10:05 AM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Shame that never happened for Detroit, I think the city might be better off today if it had constructed a subway system.
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Old 12-31-2014, 11:19 AM
 
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The freeway miles per capita in Metro Detroit is actually pretty low and the city has never been known as a freeway town.
This is, of course, completely untrue. The city is, literally, criss-crossed with urban freeways.
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Old 12-31-2014, 11:50 AM
 
Location: Vallejo
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This is, of course, completely untrue. The city is, literally, criss-crossed with urban freeways.
No, it's completely true. Your second statement is also true, however.
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Old 12-31-2014, 02:40 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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This is, of course, completely untrue. The city is, literally, criss-crossed with urban freeways.
This is from 1999, but it shows Detroit pretty low on the list for highway miles. Now Kansas City on the other hand has way too many freeways.
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Old 12-31-2014, 03:22 PM
 
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When Motor City leaders start talking about tearing out urban freeways - you know there has been a big paradigm shift.

Detroit leaders want to lessen impact of freeways

Oh - and this effort has Billionaires backing it!!! Fantastic that Detroit is looking to shed it's past and look towards a brighter future for itself.
Great--more of a Luddite mentality.

Not crimefighting, a better workforce, or anything like THAT to help Detroit. No, anything but that.
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Old 12-31-2014, 03:26 PM
 
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""Freeways cut off and isolate neighborhoods. We are still trying to recover from that," Mayor Mike Duggan said recently. Like many leaders, Duggan says the freeways that were dug, paved and then expanded decades ago played a major role in Detroit's steep economic decline.

"We cut out the fabric of communities. That impacted entrepreneurship and neighborhood businesses," he said."
Here is a "mayor" unwilling to see the proverbial Elephants in the Room. Detroit's crime problems and economic decline were not caused by making it easier to get around town.....
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Old 12-31-2014, 03:27 PM
 
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Komeht, here are the threads you've started regarding urban freeway removal over the past few days. Who's really doing the derailing?

Good news urbanists - another urban freeway to bite the dust (highway, downtown) - 12-22-2014, 12:37 PM

The case for tearing down urban freeways - 12-23-2014, 11:51 AM

When you're out of money - you're forced into making smarter choices - Fortunately the DOTs are out of money - 12-24-2014, 02:57 PM

More good news on fight against Urban Freeways Today, 12:19PM

Nice short video on why your city should consider removing its urban freeways - Today, 02:44 PM
The Ghost of Ned Ludd.
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Old 12-31-2014, 03:31 PM
 
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Pittsburgh, as well, has lost more than 1/2 of its peak population reached here in the 1940's.

The difference is that there are a lot fewer people living in each house, than there were back in the day.

I live alone in a 1000 sq ft house here in Pittsburgh, and so does my neighbor in the other half of this double. In the 1940 census, there were 5 people living here and 7 in her half.

You won't get large families in such small spaces in the future. Even if we become as poor again as we were back in the day, abortion and birth control will keep the numbers down.
THIS. The reason for the Suburban Dream was the post WW2 desire for more bedrooms and private yards for the kiddies. It is no accident that those areas with the New Urbanist Renaissance are filling up with empty nesters, gays, yuppie professionals, and people with few (or no) kids.
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Old 12-31-2014, 07:09 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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THIS. The reason for the Suburban Dream was the post WW2 desire for more bedrooms and private yards for the kiddies. It is no accident that those areas with the New Urbanist Renaissance are filling up with empty nesters, gays, yuppie professionals, and people with few (or no) kids.
The suburban dream was partly manufactured by the VA Loan for all the military returning home because it could only be used on new housing and not renovating of old housing stock.
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Old 12-31-2014, 07:13 PM
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Location: Foot of the Rockies
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The suburban dream was partly manufactured by the VA Loan for all the military returning home because it could only be used on new housing and not renovating of old housing stock.
That is untrue. I've known many people who've bought an existing home with a VA loan. The house did have to meet certain standards, you know, like having a back AND front door, little safety features like that.
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