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Old 01-18-2015, 10:59 AM
 
Location: Youngstown, Oh.
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Buses are disgusting.

The only advantage I can see in transit is if someone is commuting from NJ to NYC or something like that. Skip the rush hour traffic. Otherwise, there is no advantage.

Also, I feel a lacking of pride on this website. America is the country of the V8. Motor City. Don't tell me you guys never thought about taking a big 'ole muscle car down a rural highway at midnight, radio blasting with an attractive female on the bench seat. What's more American then that? Apple pie, the Constitution, USS Iowa perhaps?

We are the country of the Automobile.

Drive or die.
Yeah, look at what we let happen to the motor city...

Anyway, what you're describing is completely different from sitting in traffic, in your Toyota Corolla, on your way to/from work. How do you know there aren't people out there who commute via public transportation everyday, who have a big block Chevelle sitting in their garage, that they take out to enjoy on weekends?
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Old 01-18-2015, 11:11 AM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Yeah, look at what we let happen to the motor city...

Anyway, what you're describing is completely different from sitting in traffic, in your Toyota Corolla, on your way to/from work. How do you know there aren't people out there who commute via public transportation everyday, who have a big block Chevelle sitting in their garage, that they take out to enjoy on weekends?
That actually sounds ideal, I prefer driving for fun rather than driving to commute. Walking, biking, and transit all sound like better options to me for commuting than driving and sitting in traffic. But I do enjoy taking the car out on a road trip out to the coast for breakfast or lunch, and go for a hike.
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Old 01-18-2015, 11:21 AM
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Location: Foot of the Rockies
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The negatives of buses are they're often slow and unreliable, often much slower than driving. Maybe they're "good enough", but they're often much worse in quality than rail. Sometimes not.
We have express buses w/fewer stops, and they can use the HOV lanes of I-25. We're getting BRT up here in Boulder County, after having voted for rail.
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Location: Long Island / NYC
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We have express buses w/fewer stops, and they can use the HOV lanes of I-25. We're getting BRT up here in Boulder County, after having voted for rail.
Perhaps the added advantage of rail is less there if they don't get stuck in rush hour traffic.
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Old 01-18-2015, 12:51 PM
 
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Yeah, look at what we let happen to the motor city...

Anyway, what you're describing is completely different from sitting in traffic, in your Toyota Corolla, on your way to/from work. How do you know there aren't people out there who commute via public transportation everyday, who have a big block Chevelle sitting in their garage, that they take out to enjoy on weekends?
I know plenty of people like that. They don't like to wear out their "pride and joy" in rush hour traffic, particularly during the winter. And what's the point in driving a fast car when you never get out of second?
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Old 01-18-2015, 01:38 PM
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Like others have said, I think most people drive--whether they want to or not--because public transit is no longer a viable option. It's no longer practical, because we've made ourselves dependent on the automobile.
No we've made ourselves independent of public transportation.
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Old 01-18-2015, 01:41 PM
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Depends, if the system is actually a good system, time planning shouldn't be an issue. For me, I live where transit is good. I have 4 buses on a 15 minute schedule, plus one express that runs during rush hour. I can leave my house when ever and know that within 15 minutes I will be catching one of several buses.
Well I can walk out of my house right now and get in my vehicle and in the time it takes you to wait 15 minutes I could have gone to the store and back.
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Old 01-18-2015, 01:50 PM
 
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I prefer public transit to driving because I can read and get things done while sitting on a subway, train or bus and also it is statistically much safer than driving. The risk of being injured in a car accident is far far higher than the robbery rate or accident rate on any public transit system in the country. So ability to read and safety are two advantages of transit.

That's not to say that driving doesn't have its advantages which for some people might be more important. But in my personal opinion, I like the advantages of transit.

My opinion is also colored by the fact that public transit is pretty good where I live and is as fast or faster than driving during rush hour. If I lived somewhere where the public transit was less efficient, then the convenience factor of driving might outweigh the advantages of transit for me.
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Old 01-18-2015, 04:28 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Well I can walk out of my house right now and get in my vehicle and in the time it takes you to wait 15 minutes I could have gone to the store and back.
You must live within a mile of the store, not sure I would take a bus just to go to a store within a mile of my house. Also, 15 minutes is the maximum I have to wait for a bus.
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Old 01-18-2015, 04:48 PM
 
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The city I live, if I wanted to use public transport to get to work, it would involve a 2 1/2 hour bus ride each way, with 1 mile of walking in between various stops. I can drive there in 20 minutes.
Me too! Public transit with a combo of 2 different buses plus train plus 1 mile of walking would be over 2 hours. Compared to a drive of 25 - 45 minutes depending on traffic. Why in the world would I ever take public transit?
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