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Old 01-19-2015, 01:08 PM
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Location: Foot of the Rockies
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The traditional commute would be towards Pittsburgh, not away. Though if there is that much centralized commuting towards New Kensignton, maybe that is a sign that this town basically needs its own transit system for all those commuting towards it.
Are you kidding? New Ken had a population in 2010 of 13,116 and it is estimated to be dropping. They'd be lucky to raise enough money to pay a driver, forget the buses.
https://www.google.com/search?q=new+...x-a&channel=sb
New Kensington, Pennsylvania - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Old 01-19-2015, 01:12 PM
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I did read it now. As for it being congested, I thought you were saying the corridor wasn't congested, at least the bus route:
I don't see anything about congestion in my posts. Anyone with 2+ passengers can use the HOV lanes, although these BRT lanes they're building will require cars to have at least 3 passengers to use them. They'll also require hybrid owners to buy, yes buy, a transponder to use them (for free). Go figure. Bunch of crooks.
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Old 01-19-2015, 01:20 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Taking a bus to go half a mile did sound off. Many outer borough locations don't have an express subway, it's just local.
It might be local in the outer borough, but one would want to get on the express train as soon as they could. From what I could tell he had to have taken the 4 train, which is an express train once it reaches Manhattan. To get from Grand Concourse in the Bronx to Bowling Green takes about 26-35 minutes. So it makes me wonder where he managed to eat up that extra hour and a half of time.
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Old 01-19-2015, 01:24 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Are you kidding? New Ken had a population in 2010 of 13,116 and it is estimated to be dropping. They'd be lucky to raise enough money to pay a driver, forget the buses.
https://www.google.com/search?q=new+...x-a&channel=sb
New Kensington, Pennsylvania - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Well then there is your answer. We are talking about a very small town, so I am not surprised it doesn't have any useful transit. It is easy to argue that transit isn't needed when talking about small towns, much harder to make that same argument when talking about larger cities.

So while I get that where you live might not need transit, but not everywhere is the size of New Ken.
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Old 01-19-2015, 01:30 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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I did read it now. As for it being congested, I thought you were saying the corridor wasn't congested, at least the bus route:
I went back several pages and in FallsAngel's defense, you suggested that Boulder was getting BRT rather than rail because the congestion my not be an issue. Though FallsAngel never responded to that suggestion, so that is where the confusion seems to have come from.
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Old 01-19-2015, 01:40 PM
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I went back several pages and in FallsAngel's defense, you suggested that Boulder was getting BRT rather than rail because the congestion my not be an issue. Though FallsAngel never responded to that suggestion, so that is where the confusion seems to have come from.
I have discussed this issue many times before. The NW corridor is not getting rail b/c the RTD ran out of money to pay for it.
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Old 01-19-2015, 01:41 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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I have discussed this issue many times before. The NW corridor is not getting rail b/c the RTD ran out of money to pay for it.
Then I guess BRT will just have to do for now, or the taxpayers that live in the NW corridor can help cover the costs to get a light rail line.
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Old 01-19-2015, 01:45 PM
 
Location: Pittsburgh
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Are you kidding? New Ken had a population in 2010 of 13,116 and it is estimated to be dropping. They'd be lucky to raise enough money to pay a driver, forget the buses.
https://www.google.com/search?q=new+...x-a&channel=sb
New Kensington, Pennsylvania - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The population of the Greater New Ken area is actually a lot larger.


Add in adjacent communities like Upper Burrell, Lower Burrell, Arnold, Plum, East Deer, Tarentum, Springdale, Brackenridge and Cheswick, and you'll find its a lot more than just a small town.
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Old 01-19-2015, 01:58 PM
Status: "Summer!" (set 19 days ago)
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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The population of the Greater New Ken area is actually a lot larger.


Add in adjacent communities like Upper Burrell, Lower Burrell, Arnold, Plum, East Deer, Tarentum, Springdale, Brackenridge and Cheswick, and you'll find its a lot more than just a small town.
My point was it would be foolish for New Ken to have its own transit agency. I wasn't tryingto put it down.
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Old 01-19-2015, 05:56 PM
 
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From yesterday's Denver Post:
Meyer: Is RTD pulling a fast one on U.S. 36? - The Denver Post
My allowable 3 sentences,plus one:
"You guys are so cute, thinking you'd have a rail line from Longmont to Denver for your adorable commutes.."

The writer of this op piece has no idea what they are talking about.
The NW Corridor is not getting a BRT INSTEAD of a train, the election was clearly for both.

What people in the NW Corridor should be upset about is that they are getting a VERY watered down version of BRT. A well designed BRT system would be much faster than the commuter rail that is proposed. But instead they are getting neither.
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