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Old 01-16-2015, 01:00 AM
 
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Reflects that cars are more useful for the vast majority of people than transit.
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Old 01-16-2015, 01:08 AM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Reflects that cars are more useful for the vast majority of people than transit.
No, it reflects how much our country really lacks when it comes to public transportation....but it gives us something to think about when we are sitting in traffic with everyone else burning fuel.
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Old 01-16-2015, 05:09 AM
 
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No, it reflects how much our country really lacks when it comes to public transportation....but it gives us something to think about when we are sitting in traffic with everyone else burning fuel.
Not really. Modal share in most of Europe is 80%+ by car as well. Cars work better for most Europeans than transit does too.
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Old 01-16-2015, 05:41 AM
 
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for rural areas public transportation just isn't economically feasible.

too few passengers, too big an area.
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Old 01-16-2015, 07:36 AM
 
Location: Jacksonville, FL
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And the statistics also show that those who use public transit have MUCH longer commutes in general than those who drive a car.

I live in Fairfield County, CT and have the option to take a commuter train or bus to work, but it takes like 50 minutes. Driving only takes about 25 mins (including traffic). And gas prices are cheap these days. There is no need to use public transit.
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Old 01-16-2015, 07:51 AM
 
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Not really. Modal share in most of Europe is 80%+ by car as well. Cars work better for most Europeans than transit does too.
It's surprising that Europe's model share by car is so high (80%+) considering there are lots of disincentives for Europeans to drive (ie. $10/gallon gas, high congestion charges, etc.). Maybe they should tax drivers more on gas, it's obviously not high enough!
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Old 01-16-2015, 08:02 AM
 
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The city I live, if I wanted to use public transport to get to work, it would involve a 2 1/2 hour bus ride each way, with 1 mile of walking in between various stops. I can drive there in 20 minutes.
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Old 01-16-2015, 08:04 AM
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Not really. Modal share in most of Europe is 80%+ by car as well. Cars work better for most Europeans than transit does too.
Journey to work driving % is 64% for England & Wales, much lower than the US. France is 73%.

http://www.ons.gov.uk/ons/dcp171766_299766.pdf

Insee - Territoire - Une illustration des usages du recensement : les dplacements domicile-travail

Germany's public transport share is 16%. Together with walking, there's no way driving could be 80%+.

Americans who drive vs. use public transit (data)

From figure 3. From figure 1, you can see there's a rather large difference in public transit per capita share. Sure, driving is still the majority mode. But it's not the mode the way it is in most of the US.
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Old 01-16-2015, 08:07 AM
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It's surprising that Europe's model share by car is so high (80%+) considering there are lots of disincentives for Europeans to drive (ie. $10/gallon gas, high congestion charges, etc.). Maybe they should tax drivers more on gas, it's obviously not high enough!
It's not that surprising. If driving works for you, higher gas prices will be more likely to incentive more fuel efficient cars rather than a switch to no driving, though it does some reduction. And European cars do average much higher in fuel efficiency.

The high congestion charges are usually in center cities with very good public transit and already low driving share.
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Old 01-16-2015, 08:08 AM
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I wonder what the percentages would be if you took NYC out of the equation.
You could say the same about France or the UK. Take France and the UK out of the equation and the public transit share plummets.
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