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Old 03-25-2015, 07:45 AM
 
Location: Pittsburgh, PA (Morningside)
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Surprised the criteria left out nature. Beauty can be found in a natural desert setting or in high mountains or many deciduous trees, but nature should be incorporated into any urban design. Big cities like NYC would be crap without Central Park or SF without Golden Gate Park. Smaller cities need avenues of trees, parks, gardens, etc
I don't think a beautiful city needs nature honestly, though it can help. A lot of older cities in the Mediterranean don't have a single tree or blade of grass in sight in the core, but they are beautiful places nonetheless.
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Old 03-29-2015, 12:57 PM
 
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Even cities like Paris can become too big for their own good. As large cities get bigger and bigger they
become more and more dependent on automobiles, which creates a lot of ugliness in terms of suffocating gridlock and extreme unsightly air pollution and cities resort to extreme measures to control it.


Today in Paris: Half of the Private Cars in the City Banned from the Road
March 23, 2015
Paris today made its first use of a drastic plan to improve air quality in the city: ban half of the cars on the road. The ban could continue tomorrow if the current air pollution alert does not improve.

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Old 03-29-2015, 05:46 PM
 
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The heavy pollution was mostly due to weather that trapped air above the city.
In reality Paris is the least car dependant place of France but Paris is big, so even a low use of car compared to the rest of the country means a lot of traffic.

Paris is a big city since a very long time.
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Old 03-30-2015, 04:13 PM
 
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The heavy pollution was mostly due to weather that trapped air above the city.
Trapped by what? The Il-de-France land region around Paris is quite flat. There are no mountains or significant valleys. Of the handful of small hills in and around Paris the tallest isn't even half as tall as the Eiffel Tower. The nearest mountain is over 200 miles away.

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In reality Paris is the least car dependant place of France but Paris is big, so even a low use of car compared to the rest of the country means a lot of traffic.

Paris is a big city since a very long time.
The traffic congestion index puts Paris in the top 5 worst cities in Europe.
Whenever I see a top 10 list of most traffic congested cities in the world Paris is usually on it.
Notice how the worst car congested cities on these lists are also some of the largest.
That's not a coincidence, it indicates a correlation between a city's traffic congestion and its size.
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Old 03-30-2015, 05:13 PM
 
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Trapped by what? The Il-de-France land region around Paris is quite flat. There are no mountains or significant valleys. Of the handful of small hills in and around Paris the tallest isn't even half as tall as the Eiffel Tower. The nearest mountain is over 200 miles away.
Paris is surrounded by hills and this can be enouth to trap air in some circumstances.

The peak of pollution one weak ago was due to the weather conditions, this affected much of northwest Europe.
Germany, France, UK, Belgium, Netherlands... This is an exceptional case, not the norm
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Old 03-30-2015, 05:54 PM
 
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Paris is surrounded by hills and this can be enouth to trap air in some circumstances.

The peak of pollution one weak ago was due to the weather conditions, this affected much of northwest Europe.
Germany, France, UK, Belgium, Netherlands... This is an exceptional case, not the norm

Or more likely, Paris just has too many cars polluting the air.
These hills are far in between and the gaps between them are much larger then the hills themselves.
To trap pollution you need continuous walls of hills (with no gaps for the pollution to escape) which is not the case.
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Old 03-30-2015, 06:21 PM
 
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Not more than any city of its size.
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Old 03-31-2015, 12:55 AM
 
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Not more than any city of its size.
Very high levels of traffic congestion and pollution are negative aspects of any overly large city.
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Old 03-31-2015, 06:52 PM
 
Location: Jewel Lake (Sagle) Idaho
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Keep the size small, make it attractive to light industry/manufacturing so you have a decent tax and employment base, locate business and residences within a modest distance, limit the height of buildings to no more than say 4 stories. Require businesses to supply x number of parking spaces per square foot.
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Old 04-01-2015, 09:20 AM
 
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Keep the size small, make it attractive to light industry/manufacturing so you have a decent tax and employment base, locate business and residences within a modest distance, limit the height of buildings to no more than say 4 stories. Require businesses to supply x number of parking spaces per square foot.
no wonder Dallas and Phoenix are so attractive.

The opposite way is probably right - limit height of building to no less than 4 stories (with a max cap also) so that the city is compact, dense with continuous street walls. Limited the number of parking space and charge high congestion fees to discourage the use of private cars. Building extensive and convenient public transit.
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