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Old 03-26-2015, 06:45 PM
 
Location: Indiana Uplands
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A New Report Says Sprawl Costs America $1 Trillion a Year - CityLab
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Old 03-27-2015, 07:20 PM
 
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Suspect this number was colonically derived.
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Old 03-28-2015, 06:30 PM
 
Location: M I N N E S O T A
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A New Report Says Sprawl Costs America $1 Trillion a Year - CityLab

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No. lol.

Spending money maintaining cars and gas is not really that big of an issue to most Americans.
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Old 03-30-2015, 07:30 AM
 
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No. lol.

Spending money maintaining cars and gas is not really that big of an issue to most Americans.
Only the second largest expense for most Americans. Yeah, not that big a deal at all. And a trillion dollars put to ther productive uses....pshaw...a mere trifle.
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Old 03-30-2015, 08:32 AM
 
Location: East of Seattle since 1992, 615' Elevation, Zone 8b - originally from SF Bay Area
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No. lol.

Spending money maintaining cars and gas is not really that big of an issue to most Americans.
And well worth it for the quality of life.
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Old 03-30-2015, 09:00 AM
 
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Suspect this number was colonically derived.
Indeed. One wonders how much money has been squandered on "urban renewal" projects.
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Old 03-30-2015, 09:01 AM
 
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Only the second largest expense for most Americans. Yeah, not that big a deal at all. And a trillion dollars put to ther productive uses....pshaw...a mere trifle.
Compared to the costs of crime, violence, and being packed into tenements, still a trifle.
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Old 03-30-2015, 12:33 PM
 
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And well worth it for the quality of life.
you mean it is worth it to suffer all the congestion, wasted hours sitting behind the steering wheels (for many more than two hours each day), pollution as well as stress, for a large suburban house with absolutely nothing nearby?

Quality of life is not defined by living space. It includes far more than that.
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Old 03-30-2015, 01:24 PM
 
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Compared to the costs of crime, violence, and being packed into tenements, still a trifle.
How are tenements the alternative to the suburbs? This fallacy wipes out all nuance because it leaves no room for obvious flaws in the argument like inner-ring suburbs/streetcar suburbs, townhouses, and all kinds of middling densities.

The only options are not St. Charles, MO or Shanghai, China. The only realities are not Leave-it-to-Beaver perfect suburban tracts or 1980s New York. Lots of suburbs with high crime and terrible schools. Lots of moderate density cities with low crime.
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Old 03-30-2015, 11:33 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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How are tenements the alternative to the suburbs? This fallacy wipes out all nuance because it leaves no room for obvious flaws in the argument like inner-ring suburbs/streetcar suburbs, townhouses, and all kinds of middling densities.

The only options are not St. Charles, MO or Shanghai, China. The only realities are not Leave-it-to-Beaver perfect suburban tracts or 1980s New York. Lots of suburbs with high crime and terrible schools. Lots of moderate density cities with low crime.
Yes, Denver, but you guys always "diss" it and say it looks suburban.
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