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Old 09-23-2015, 01:12 PM
 
Location: The Ponderosa
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I ride a bike at times for exercise and recreation, and just like walking, I prefer a winding path/road. Biking on a straight, flat surface is boring.
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Old 09-23-2015, 01:33 PM
 
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I am not referring to ones that curve because of topography or obstacles, but rather those that curve for no other reason that some silly person's aesthetics. This is stupid, wastes money (more materials and labor) and my time since I use these paths for commuting. If these same designers intentionally designed roads the same way they wouldn't have a job. Examples:

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Au...a257cea46c81f0
https://www.google.com/maps/place/Au...766a82422ce131

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Where Do We Go from Here?: Sometimes the Best Path between Two Points is a Straight Line

I wish the USA had more long curvy roads, like Europe, instead of all the perfectly straight, boring, roads we drive on today .
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Old 09-23-2015, 01:37 PM
 
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I don't know I have a 15 minute commute that costs me pennies and I get exercise too. Oh and I have great home appreciation in a neighborhood with tons of amenities. How about you?

You can address aesthetics with landscaping and complementary infrastructure.

So you wouldn't mind S-shaped roadways?

Using your line of thinking, do you wear the exact same pants and shirt everyday, like steve jobs, because, isn't it just a waste of money and time to buy a bunch of different shirts and pants ?

And shouldn't your jeans be blue, and your shirt be white,


and all the walls in your house should be white as well
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Old 09-23-2015, 03:49 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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Even if I walk my dog I still don't want to curve back and forth, and I'm sure he does not get any extra benefit. If I am going to the store I also want the straightest point between two lines.

How do curves make my bike/ped trip more enjoyable?

Why should cash-strapped municipalities advocate costlier designs ahead of practicalities?

Actually I find it insulting that just b/c I'm a pedestrian that somehow my time is not valuable. I actually walk and bike b/c they are the most practical modes given where I live and work.
Your dog (and you) are getting some more steps in.

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Au contraire -- I suspect such paths were designed to *discourage* bicycle use, for the "strolling" pedestrians.
Where I live the off-street paths are for all modes of transportation other than cars, e.g. bikes, walking, roller blades, whatever.

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The paths were not built strictly for commuting or else they would tend to be straight(like expressways and major streets). They were built so that someone could have an enjoyable bike ride or walk with little thought of getting from point A to point B.
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A fundamental principle of landscape design is that curved paths are more interesting and aesthetically pleasing than straight ones, primarily because they offer the "mystery" of "what's around the bend", which is why they are encouraged in both public and private spaces. I agree with luv4horses that most people prefer curving paths. People often consider a long run of straight/linear sidewalk or path that's flat and open to be a "desert" or "tundra", and a long run of straight/linear sidewalk or path lined with trees or buildings a "tunnel" or "canyon". Both tend to be off-putting, which is why you rarely see long, straight runs of sidewalks/paths in areas designed/redesigned in the last 50 years or more.
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Old 09-23-2015, 04:11 PM
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The OP's links don't seem to show a path, or maybe I'm missing something.

I bike for recreation, and I like to get out into other areas. A little longer is ok, but a bike path that's twice the distance is not something I'd want to use. I remember a bike path that had some extremely sharp curves that forced me to slow down a bunch for the curve.
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Old 09-23-2015, 04:13 PM
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I wish the USA had more long curvy roads, like Europe, instead of all the perfectly straight, boring, roads we drive on today .
More curvy road than perfectly straight roads here.
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Old 09-23-2015, 05:38 PM
 
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I prefer a straight line when I'm commuting or trying to get somewhere. Having a winding path for aesthetics, especially considering even pedestrians tend to want to get somewhere without fussing about too much, is best suited for parks and recreational areas. But I've seen these on more utilitarian pathways and it's usually just because the render invokes the idea that everyone on it wants to walk recreationally.

We're not talking about long, lazy curves, but tight undulations. Pedestrians and cyclists want that on pathways no more than a driver would on a daily basis.
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Old 09-23-2015, 05:47 PM
 
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Our safest bike paths are along our river which runs through the entire city.





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Old 09-23-2015, 06:30 PM
 
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If those wavy sidewalks along the roads are the bike paths then I don't see the sense in that design. Sidewalks that simply follow and parallel a street look better straight, I think. I am glad and prefer to see bikes and pedestrians sharing a sidewalk path rather than bicyclists and cars sharing the road. They're doing the later here with an alarming rate of MV pedestrian accidents. That's not the case along the river paths.
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Old 09-23-2015, 07:34 PM
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If those wavy sidewalks along the roads are the bike paths then I don't see the sense in that design. Sidewalks that simply follow and parallel a street look better straight, I think. I am glad and prefer to see bikes and pedestrians sharing a sidewalk path rather than bicyclists and cars sharing the road. They're doing the later here with an alarming rate of MV pedestrian accidents. That's not the case along the river paths.
If the sidewalk intersects roads frequently, it's not really safer. Too many intersections with turning cars where cars aren't looking.
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