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Old 09-22-2015, 10:19 PM
 
Location: Holly Neighborhood, AUSTINtx
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I am not referring to ones that curve because of topography or obstacles, but rather those that curve for no other reason that some silly person's aesthetics. This is stupid, wastes money (more materials and labor) and my time since I use these paths for commuting. If these same designers intentionally designed roads the same way they wouldn't have a job. Examples:

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Au...a257cea46c81f0
https://www.google.com/maps/place/Au...766a82422ce131

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Where Do We Go from Here?: Sometimes the Best Path between Two Points is a Straight Line
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Old 09-22-2015, 10:35 PM
 
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I am not referring to ones that curve because of topography or obstacles, but rather those that curve for no other reason that some silly person's aesthetics. This is stupid, wastes money (more materials and labor) and my time since I use these paths for commuting. If these same designers intentionally designed roads the same way they wouldn't have a job. Examples:

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Au...a257cea46c81f0
https://www.google.com/maps/place/Au...766a82422ce131

Whatever the reception here at least I'm not alone.....
Where Do We Go from Here?: Sometimes the Best Path between Two Points is a Straight Line
The paths were not built strictly for commuting or else they would tend to be straight(like expressways and major streets). They were built so that someone could have an enjoyable bike ride or walk with little thought of getting from point A to point B.
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Old 09-22-2015, 10:57 PM
 
Location: Holly Neighborhood, AUSTINtx
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The paths were not built strictly for commuting or else they would tend to be straight(like expressways and major streets). They were built so that someone could have an enjoyable bike ride or walk with little thought of getting from point A to point B.

Even if I walk my dog I still don't want to curve back and forth, and I'm sure he does not get any extra benefit. If I am going to the store I also want the straightest point between two lines.

How do curves make my bike/ped trip more enjoyable?

Why should cash-strapped municipalities advocate costlier designs ahead of practicalities?

Actually I find it insulting that just b/c I'm a pedestrian that somehow my time is not valuable. I actually walk and bike b/c they are the most practical modes given where I live and work.

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Old 09-23-2015, 12:14 AM
 
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My local favorite...

Bing Maps - Driving Directions, Traffic and Road Conditions

What's even more amusing...and scary...is that it's the same people approving this crap who think bicyclists should share the unprotected pavement with cars traveling 2 feet away at 45+ miles an hour.
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Old 09-23-2015, 07:22 AM
 
Location: NC
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Sorry for your pain, but many/(most?) of us like the aesthetics. Life is a journey, enjoy the trip! We like to dawdle, smell the roses, so to speak. After or before work, of course. If your only use of these park-like paths is for commuting you probably live in the wrong area for you.
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Old 09-23-2015, 07:52 AM
 
Location: Jamestown, NY
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A fundamental principle of landscape design is that curved paths are more interesting and aesthetically pleasing than straight ones, primarily because they offer the "mystery" of "what's around the bend", which is why they are encouraged in both public and private spaces. I agree with luv4horses that most people prefer curving paths. People often consider a long run of straight/linear sidewalk or path that's flat and open to be a "desert" or "tundra", and a long run of straight/linear sidewalk or path lined with trees or buildings a "tunnel" or "canyon". Both tend to be off-putting, which is why you rarely see long, straight runs of sidewalks/paths in areas designed/redesigned in the last 50 years or more.
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Old 09-23-2015, 08:39 AM
 
Location: East of Seattle since 1992, originally from SF Bay Area
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When a path is designed for recreational use, curves are not only more pleasing aesthetically, but provide a longer walk in the same distance. I'm a big fan of curves, and elevation changes on public paths.
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Old 09-23-2015, 08:48 AM
 
Location: Holly Neighborhood, AUSTINtx
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Sorry for your pain, but many/(most?) of us like the aesthetics. Life is a journey, enjoy the trip! We like to dawdle, smell the roses, so to speak. After or before work, of course. If your only use of these park-like paths is for commuting you probably live in the wrong area for you.
I don't know I have a 15 minute commute that costs me pennies and I get exercise too. Oh and I have great home appreciation in a neighborhood with tons of amenities. How about you?

You can address aesthetics with landscaping and complementary infrastructure.

So you wouldn't mind S-shaped roadways?
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Old 09-23-2015, 08:51 AM
 
Location: NC
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Some of the curvy roads are constructed to avoid things like wind tunnels and glare (sunrise/sunset) and environmental features. A slight curve is no problem. I love mountain driving.

As far as annoying roads go, you should check out the "super streets". Talk about extra driving...
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Old 09-23-2015, 09:44 AM
 
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The paths were not built strictly for commuting or else they would tend to be straight(like expressways and major streets). They were built so that someone could have an enjoyable bike ride or walk with little thought of getting from point A to point B.
Au contraire -- I suspect such paths were designed to *discourage* bicycle use, for the "strolling" pedestrians.
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