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Old 11-30-2018, 03:25 PM
 
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I've wondered how the Old City of Jerusalem is so dense. Looking at the Wikipedia article (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_City_(Jerusalem)) the population is 36965 people, in an area of 0.35 square miles. This works out be a density of 105,614ppsm. This is about as dense as Kowloon (111,450ppsm) and about twice as dense as Paris (54,000ppsm).

Furthermore, I'm sure the Old City's density also increases significantly during the day due to visitors.



The Old City has no high rise buildings. Also, it looks like a lot of the space is taken up by non-residential buildings like Temple Mount. How is such a high density possible? Is the Old City simply overcrowded? Or are the streets very narrow?

P.S. I'm just asking about Jerusalem from a density perspective. No political/religion rants please.
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Old 11-30-2018, 03:59 PM
 
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I haven't been to Jerusalem yet, but I'd guess the same as yours -- narrow streets (no 4-lane roads or 8-lane freeways slicing through the city), perhaps most of the roads are actually alleyways (just like what you can find in London), smaller living arrangements, etc. You don't need skyscrapers to be dense.
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Old 11-30-2018, 05:42 PM
 
Location: Seattle WA, USA
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Yeah you can't even really call them streets, more like pathways.
https://www.google.com/maps/@31.7785...thumbfov%3D100
https://www.google.com/maps/@31.7797...thumbfov%3D100
https://www.google.com/maps/@31.7761...thumbfov%3D100
https://www.google.com/maps/@31.7748...7i13312!8i6656
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Old 11-30-2018, 06:04 PM
 
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Those remind me of the medina in Moroccan cities. It feels very Agrabah...
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Old 12-02-2018, 05:48 AM
 
Location: Greater Orlampa CSA
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Jerusalem is at the very top of my list of places to go to-not just from a religious perspective but from an urbanist perspective too. Nice street views.
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Old 12-07-2018, 10:47 PM
 
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Jerusalem is at the very top of my list of places to go to-not just from a religious perspective but from an urbanist perspective too. Nice street views.
Tel Aviv was actually more impressive to me in terms of urbanity. The density, vibrancy and pedestrian-oriented nature of that city is awesome. Amazing food and nightlife too.
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Old 12-12-2018, 05:58 AM
 
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Tel Aviv is high on my list too as I have heard good things. I just mean that Jerusalem would be such a history lesson on the older development of urbanity (dense housing, where things are placed, narrow somewhat crowded streets, etc.). Tel Aviv even has a historic area though, I have heard the Jaffa old port is really cool.
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Old 01-27-2019, 01:01 PM
 
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The Old City has no high rise buildings. Also, it looks like a lot of the space is taken up by non-residential buildings like Temple Mount. How is such a high density possible? Is the Old City simply overcrowded? Or are the streets very narrow?

P.S. I'm just asking about Jerusalem from a density perspective. No political/religion rants please.
The streets are very narrow and many of them are really just pathways with no vehicle traffic whatsoever.
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Old 01-27-2019, 03:06 PM
 
Location: Kennedy Heights, Ohio. USA
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How in the world did someone get a car in there!!!! https://www.google.com/maps/@31.7758...7i13312!8i6656
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Old 01-27-2019, 05:46 PM
 
Location: Youngstown, Oh.
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How in the world did someone get a car in there!!!! https://www.google.com/maps/@31.7758...7i13312!8i6656

People get very good at maneuvering cars in very tight spaces. I was in Florence, Italy before they made the old center car-free, and I remember seeing streets that were so narrow that there was just enough room for a small car, if you folded its mirrors, with only a couple inches of clearance on each side.
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