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Old 11-15-2009, 10:38 AM
 
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Just registered here to post about Toronto.

the 401 across the top of Toronto is horrendous. The reason it is so busy and has so many lanes is because it is the only east west freeway covering southern ontario in its entirety, which connects the Detroit/Windsor crossing all the way to Montreal. Huge trucking route. Also, the urban spawl of the GTA stretches way over 100km. The Collector/Express system which is 3-5 lanes each lasts over 40 KM across the suburban reaches of Toronto, bringing the lane total to between 12-14. It is simply overwhelming to drive at times (especially after a night out).

The 407 was built to ease congestion as a suburban east west freeway, it was built as an electronic toll highway in the early 90's. Unfrotunately, it was sold to a private Spainish consortium by a certain premier who loved selling off public assets. Now the tolls are absolutely insane (100KM can routinely cost $20 each way, and if the bills are not paid the Ministry of Transport can withold your sticker renewal for your plates) so it has become a road for the rich, or people with corporate jobs who's employer foots the bill.

Other highways in the GTA with a lot of lanes are the 400, which connects Toronto to cottage country about an hour away, and is also about ten lanes close to the city, and the 427 which is ten lanes.

The worst part of the GTA though it the drive downtown. Like many of your American cities, many more highways were in the development and even started before tree huggers like Jane Jacobs started crying about everything and killed them. Now we are left with two freeways that connect the downtown core to the 401, the Don Valley Parkway (parking lot) is three lanes each way, constantly gridlocked (even at 2am), and the 427 in the west end, which is 10 lanes and also constantly busy. Population is booming, and you need a car to get anywhere as transit is just not an option whatsoever. There were freeways that had been started and then abruptly stopped as Jacobs and her rampage of insanity somehow gained traction, and now there are little stubs of freeway that go nowehere (Spadina expressway, now the Allen Road)

Ontario freeways are not elevated to reduce road glare (save for the northern freeway expansions of the 400 and 11) and have a constant limit of 100 (60MpH) in both urban and rural areas, which is assinine. The population of southern ontario has exploded this last twenty years and the infrastructure has not kept pace.

As someone who makes the drive to Florida, I love your interstates. Well thought out, elevated, speed limits make sense, for the most part ample numbers of freeways in urban areas. Even Atlanta during rush hour is nothing like Toronto at midnight. Consider yourselve blessed my American driver friends!
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Old 11-17-2009, 06:32 PM
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Atlanta takes the cake BY FAR! I didn't know Atlanta was like that.
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Old 11-17-2009, 08:39 PM
 
Location: Indianapolis
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Atlanta, Toronto, San Diego, Chicago, and Houston.
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Old 11-17-2009, 09:45 PM
 
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Atlanta, Toronto, San Diego, Chicago, and Houston.
Oops...and L.A.?
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Old 11-18-2009, 06:51 PM
 
Location: Dallas-Fort Worth Metroplex
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Dallas has big freeways!
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Old 04-11-2010, 03:46 PM
 
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Has anyone seen cincinnati freeways there only 3-6 lanes
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Old 04-11-2010, 04:19 PM
 
Location: Austin,Tx
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Katy Freeway in Houston

Houston Interstate 10 Katy Freeway photos westbound
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Old 10-18-2010, 07:02 AM
 
Location: vancouver bc canada
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Toronto has some of the biggest freeways just go look on Google maps file:///Users/Moe/Library/Caches/TemporaryItems/moz-screenshot.png (broken link) some areas you can count 20 lanes wide
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Old 10-18-2010, 07:06 AM
 
Location: vancouver bc canada
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Old 10-18-2010, 07:10 AM
 
Location: vancouver bc canada
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this is the 401 in toronto
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