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Old 09-05-2008, 09:02 AM
 
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Interesting ideas, but I'm wondering how you plan on compensating the owners of the cookie-cutter neighborhoods and strip malls you plan to tear down and convert back into farm land. Also, what do you plan on telling people who live there and don't buy into the new urbanist ideas and don't like that type of living arrangement. Sounds like some details need to be worked out.
Exactly what I was thinking.

I do think that that type of city structure makes more sense, but unfortunately we can't just hit the "bulldoze" icon and start over (I LOVE The Sims and Sim City btw). Once you have a poorly planned metro area that has grown up around strip malls and highways, it's near impossible to go back. You CAN do infill and revitalization projects and hope that will eventually transform the surrounding areas, but it's not anything you'll see the fruits of in your lifetime, most likely.

Money is the carrot and the solution.

Developers will not invest in a project unless they are sure of a return on investment, plus profit. They have to know people will buy. People will not buy unless it is a) convenient to where they work and play, b) safe enough, and c) a reasonably good long-term investment (home value in the area expected to go up). A, B, and C are not going to happen unless the city in question is dilligently investing budget money in things like law enforcement, education programs, city beautification projects, and plans to attract businesses (places of employment) to the city instead of the 'burbs. And when your residents in EXISTING areas of sprawl are complaining about road repairs and parking, and developers are only interested in building on former farmland in areas that they KNOW people will buy (because people want to get away from the dirty, neglected, unsafe, loud, and expensive cities), then I can see how city planning that does not have a vision of a sustainable and livable city and/or is not firmly committed to it, would continue to spend budget money on the same old stuff.

Fake Urbanism: I know exactly what you're talking about. I think it sort of depends on the area. Just take a look at the development names. Around here, people don't have much urban sensibility and prefer to feel like they're in the country, so places have names like "Covington Farms" and "Ripple Creek" (or they take on the name of whatever farm they plowed over, lol). In Portland, Oregon, which is IMO a city where people are proud of their urban lifestyles but the city housing prices are astronomical, I am seeing new developments out in the 'burbs with very urban names. Orenco Station, Streets of Tanasborne (that's actually a shopping center), etc. They're built more blocky and city-looking, I've even seen a few advertised as "brownstones."
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Old 12-19-2010, 02:06 PM
 
Location: Southwest Louisiana
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What is the general opinion of "traditional neighborhood" mixed-use communities that are becoming more popular? Can they really replicate the urban experience? Does anyone live in one of these communities? Actually I don't live in one of these communities, but I think we were supposed to get one but the project is on hold right now. Maybe once the real estate market stabalizes. Is there a true sense of community that one wouldn't find in a regular McMansion suburb?
Yes and no.

They do bring back some of the old lifestyle of traditional communities in the sense that they are usually very walkable and they do have a variety of housing and areas for work. I must say. However, while many of them were originally intended to be for mixed income, they often immediately get taken over by the wealthy. I'd feel closer in one of these b/c they encourage walking and meeting other ppl, then there are often several parks to sit and rest at.

When done correctly(i.e. not being limited to one income group) they can get great. I find it nice to see a variety of incomes(low, middle and upper) living under one roof.
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Old 12-20-2010, 03:40 PM
 
Location: Washington D.C.
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New Urbanism communities under construction and built in Gaithersburg MD (Suburb of Washington D.C.)

Gaithersburg is one of the first cities in the nation to embrace the new urbanism concept. The award winning Kentlands community is a prime example of a thriving dense community. There are two more communities by kentlands under construction now. These are all walkable dense communities with 20 story highrise dense cores. There is also a new Science City under construction which will create a new bio tech hub in Gaithersburg with 52,500 new jobs in this area. They will all be served by lightrail or BRT called the Corridor Cities Transitway CCT. Gaithersburg density is slated to reach 9,000 people per square mile.

Watkins Mill Town Center (under construction) named after owner of land



2,250 unit Crown Farm Development named after owner of land




Kentlands Community (One of the first New Urbanism communities in the country) named after owner of land




Great Seneca Life Science City (60,000 new jobs and 9,000 new residential units mainly highrises)
http://i994.photobucket.com/albums/af64/gibso012/sciencecity1.jpg (broken link)


Lightrail (Corridor Cities Transitway) for Gaithersburg (5 stations) and points north

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