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View Poll Results: Which city has the biggest problem with sprawl?
Miami 6 3.45%
Houston 51 29.31%
Phoenix 49 28.16%
Atlanta 68 39.08%
Charlotte 10 5.75%
Dallas 28 16.09%
Los Angeles 52 29.89%
Las Vegas 22 12.64%
San Antonio 9 5.17%
Detroit 7 4.02%
Jacksonville 14 8.05%
Other 11 6.32%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 174. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 12-06-2008, 09:00 AM
 
Location: Back home in Kaguawagpjpa.
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Okay people, lets stop the name calling. If we're talking about density and sprawl you have to remember that you're talking about how many people live in an area on anverage. NYC metro area is so large, because Manhattan excert tremendous amount of influence to surrounding areas North Jersey, Hudson Valley, LI, Southwest CT, and now even NEPA. This sprawl makes the Tri-State have a low density despite it's size, though that is just and average. If you look at individual counties, the density greatly increases.

Essex County, NJ; has a population of almost 800,000 in 126 sq/miles. Hudson County, NJ has a population of a little over 600,000 packed in 62 sq/miles. Kings County, NY ( Brooklyn ) 2.5 million in 70 sq miles, and the granddaddy-New York County, NY ( Manhattan ) 1.6 million in 22 sq/miles. These areas has a high population density, but the metro over all is low.

Even an area like Brooklyn or Essex County, still has areas that have relativialy low density. We're just talking averages here.
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Old 12-11-2008, 02:09 PM
 
Location: Earth at the moment
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Here's some cool pictures of sprawl that I maid myself:
(They are all Urban housing Sprawl...)









Wait a minute... These didn't turn out so well... I hope they at least are good enough to describe what urban sprawl looks like.
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Old 12-11-2008, 02:16 PM
 
Location: Hiawatha neighborhood of Minneapolis
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Those are great pictures... reminds of the song Little Boxes:

1. Little boxes on the hillside,
Little boxes made of ticky-tacky,
Little boxes, little boxes,
Little boxes, all the same.
There's a green one and a pink one
And a blue one and a yellow one
And they're all made out of ticky-tacky
And they all look just the same.

2. And the people in the houses
All go to the university,
And they all get put in boxes,
Little boxes, all the same.
And there's doctors and there's lawyers
And business executives,
And they're all made out of ticky-tacky
And they all look just the same.
3. And they all play on the golf-course,
And drink their Martini dry,
And they all have pretty children,
And the children go to school.
And the children go to summer camp
And then to the university,
And they all get put in boxes
And they all come out the same.

4. And the boys go into business,
And marry, and raise a family,
And they all get put in boxes,
Little boxes, all the same.
There's a green one and a pink one
And a blue one and a yellow one
And they're all made out of ticky-tacky
And they all look just the same
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Old 12-11-2008, 02:19 PM
 
Location: St Simons Island, GA
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Originally Posted by Veridian View Post
Those are great pictures... reminds of the song Little Boxes:

1. Little boxes on the hillside,
Little boxes made of ticky-tacky,
Little boxes, little boxes,
Little boxes, all the same.
There's a green one and a pink one
And a blue one and a yellow one
And they're all made out of ticky-tacky
And they all look just the same.

2. And the people in the houses
All go to the university,
And they all get put in boxes,
Little boxes, all the same.
And there's doctors and there's lawyers
And business executives,
And they're all made out of ticky-tacky
And they all look just the same.
3. And they all play on the golf-course,
And drink their Martini dry,
And they all have pretty children,
And the children go to school.
And the children go to summer camp
And then to the university,
And they all get put in boxes
And they all come out the same.

4. And the boys go into business,
And marry, and raise a family,
And they all get put in boxes,
Little boxes, all the same.
There's a green one and a pink one
And a blue one and a yellow one
And they're all made out of ticky-tacky
And they all look just the same
LOL that's the theme song for the Showtime series Weeds.
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Old 12-11-2008, 02:20 PM
 
Location: Hiawatha neighborhood of Minneapolis
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Yup- by a folk singer named Malvina Reynolds. Just looking at those pictures made it pop into my head!

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Old 12-11-2008, 02:26 PM
 
Location: Earth at the moment
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Iv'e actually never thought of how boring it must be to live in a urban sprawl area like Cinco Ranch (Picture nr 3 in my post) When all the streets and houses are the same.
And to live where there is nothing to it, just a big space with nothing else than houses...
Think of all the hours you waste going to work millions of miles away from where you live!
What a waste of gas, and how bad for the environment!
I guess that's just what Sprawl stands for! Hehe...
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Old 12-11-2008, 02:47 PM
 
Location: Boilermaker Territory
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Originally Posted by Julian/SWE View Post
Here's some cool pictures of sprawl that I maid myself:
(They are all Urban housing Sprawl...)









Wait a minute... These didn't turn out so well... I hope they at least are good enough to describe what urban sprawl looks like.
Excellent post.
Picture #2 describes what the Kansas City metro area sprawl looks like.
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Old 12-11-2008, 05:01 PM
 
Location: Houston
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Originally Posted by Julian/SWE View Post
Iv'e actually never thought of how boring it must be to live in a urban sprawl area like Cinco Ranch (Picture nr 3 in my post) When all the streets and houses are the same.
And to live where there is nothing to it, just a big space with nothing else than houses...
Think of all the hours you waste going to work millions of miles away from where you live!
What a waste of gas, and how bad for the environment!
I guess that's just what Sprawl stands for! Hehe...
What is boring for some people, may not be boring to others. I think the majority of people in Cinco Ranch love it there.
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Old 12-11-2008, 09:14 PM
 
Location: Underneath the Pecan Tree
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Originally Posted by Julian/SWE View Post
Iv'e actually never thought of how boring it must be to live in a urban sprawl area like Cinco Ranch (Picture nr 3 in my post) When all the streets and houses are the same.
And to live where there is nothing to it, just a big space with nothing else than houses...
Think of all the hours you waste going to work millions of miles away from where you live!
What a waste of gas, and how bad for the environment!
I guess that's just what Sprawl stands for! Hehe...
I have family who live in Cinco Ranch and it's actually a nice area. Lots of people jogging, kids playing, and it has that neighborhood feel to it and not just another master-planned tacky developement. Houston has some really nice master-planned areas like Sienna Plantation or City Park. These types of areas have made me come to understand and appreciate suburbs more. You just can't get that warm,cozy, and safe feeling in the city like you do in these areas.
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Old 12-11-2008, 09:22 PM
 
Location: Houston
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I have family who live in Cinco Ranch and it's actually a nice area. Lots of people jogging, kids playing, and it has that neighborhood feel to it and not just another master-planned tacky developement. Houston has some really nice master-planned areas like Sienna Plantation or City Park. These types of areas have made me come to understand and appreciate suburbs more. You just can't get that warm,cozy, and safe feeling in the city like you do in these areas.
I've never heard of City Park. Where is it?
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