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Old 07-04-2009, 03:44 PM
 
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The quiet areas in NY are also urban (Buffalo, Rochester, Syracuse). This map demonstrates very well how New York really hasn't changed much in suburban sprawl since the early '90s.

As for Texas, there is just so much of Texas that I think too much sprawl is not possible. :-)

What's really scary is what happened to NC and SC over the last 20 years. The character of those states must have completely changed since the 1980s.

Northern Arizona is mountainous, but I guess I'm surprised to see that Flagstaff never really took off in terms of growth? After all, it's not any more mountainous than some places in Colorado.
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Old 07-04-2009, 04:48 PM
 
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So the map is effectively showing areas that have grown and expanded since 1990 in red and yellow versus areas that have stagnated since 1990...
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Old 07-04-2009, 05:12 PM
 
Location: Indiana Uplands
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So the map is effectively showing areas that have grown and expanded since 1990 in red and yellow versus areas that have stagnated since 1990...
It mainly displays suburban sprawl in the 1990s. Some metros were worse than others. The more sprawling areas generally did experience more economic growth in that same time period.
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Old 07-04-2009, 05:15 PM
 
Location: Kentucky
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I like the suburbs and "new" areas, not sure what all the hate toward suburbs is all about.
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Old 07-04-2009, 05:20 PM
 
Location: Washington D.C. By way of Texas
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I look at the map more as black vs. colored areas of any kind (which indicates developed land). This is why I don't get it when people from the Northeast or coastal CA complain about Texas cities' sprawl.
Because those cities and areas have densified established vibrant cores to offset the sprawl that is happening outside of its city limits which is not under their control. That's the difference between the NE/Cali areas and Texas.
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Old 07-04-2009, 05:24 PM
 
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It mainly displays suburban sprawl in the 1990s. Some metros were worse than others. The more sprawling areas generally did experience more economic growth in that same time period.
A smaller area would logically sprawl more...cities like Atlanta have doubled in population since that time, so of course it will show massive sprawl. Otherwise there wouldn't be anywhere for 3 million new residents to live.
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Old 07-04-2009, 05:27 PM
 
Location: Los Altos Hills, CA
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I recall a very good thread on skyscraperpage about 5 years ago that had to-scale maps of developed land of urban areas around the world.

I was shocked to see the Bay Area was so much more spread out than every sunbelt region except LA itself. Its cause we live on narrow slivers of land that require building out. Way, way out.
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Old 07-04-2009, 05:31 PM
 
Location: Denver
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I recall a very good thread on skyscraperpage about 5 years ago that had to-scale maps of developed land of urban areas around the world.

I was shocked to see the Bay Area was so much more spread out than every sunbelt region except LA itself. Its cause we live on narrow slivers of land that require building out. Way, way out.
I remember that thread...it was very interesting.

The amount of yellow in the Carolinas is almost overwhelming!
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Old 07-04-2009, 05:36 PM
 
Location: Los Altos Hills, CA
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I remember that thread...it was very interesting.
If you recall, SF, Boston, DC-Baltimore and Philadelphia seemed much larger than Houston, Dallas, Atlanta and Phoenix.

Contrary to what most would assume. I wish I saved those maps.
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Old 07-04-2009, 06:03 PM
 
Location: Cleveland
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Nice find.

Cleveland-Akron-Canton-Youngstown is huge.
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