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Manhatten had the greatest designers and architectual minds in the world. The subway sytem, infrastructure, water system are the best in the World. The average developer in these urban sprawl areas like Florida only know how to tack drywall together with a stable gun. The comparison is laughable. Manhatten has stood the test of time, these urban sprawl areas are filled with vacancies and tired digusting structures that are 20 years old and look like they should be condemned.
Who cares which is more sustainable? The more important question is which type is more amenable to a superhero crimefighter? You need the ultra-high density urban environments like Manhattan for that. Spiderman's preferred mode of transportion is rendered completely ineffective in a place like Phoenix. Monitoring a city the geographic size of Houston is far too big a project for a loner like Batman.
ROTF
Best post I seen in a while, lol. Your logic is clear, precise and to the point.
Although, now that I think about it, Batman lives in the suburbs!
Manhattan easily... one of the things that bothers me about suburban sprrawl... If more people moved back into cities which it looks like it is trending too we'll have a lot more green space to play in.
well, you could grow more food in a suburban backyard. You could put solar panels on your roof, you could drink well water, you could telecommute or drive a prius, etc
Manhattan, NY or sprawling suburbia in the sunbelt?
You're the one who lives in the burbs up there in New York. My Sunbelt-dwelling lives in the middle of an urban neighborhood in Atlanta.
BTW, density doesn't always equal sustainability. I would argue that areas like Greenwich Village, Chelsea, and SoHo are sustainable areas given the scale of development and the re-use of existing buildings. Midtown Manhattan is not really that sustainable given the amount of energy highrises consume (HVAC, lighting, etc). Also, an intense concentration of highrises--while appealing to the eye from far away--doesn't provide an ideal neighborhood environment as residents in highrises live over 100 feet above the street--where all of the day-to-day neighborhood activity and interaction takes place.
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well, you could grow more food in a suburban backyard. You could put solar panels on your roof, you could drink well water, you could telecommute or drive a prius, etc
High-rises can have big solar panels. There is talk about "skyscraper farms." You can use collected rainwater for toilets, etc. Instead of driving, you can take the subway.
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You're the one who lives in the burbs up there in New York.
I never said I lived in New York. I just said that I live in a small suburban city (somewhere I will not mention in the USA) but wish I lived in Manhattan.
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Midtown Manhattan is not really that sustainable given the amount of energy highrises consume (HVAC, lighting, etc).
Well it also wouldn't be sustainable to spread all those offices out in low-rises. Renewable energy can be used for HVAC and lighting. And sure skyscrapers as a whole use a lot of energy, but what about each unit per capita? If all the units in a skyscraper were spread out into individual buildings, the units would use more energy.
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residents in highrises live over 100 feet above the street--where all of the day-to-day neighborhood activity and interaction takes place.
What's your point?
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