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Old 03-21-2010, 11:02 AM
 
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Doesn't most of NJ's wealth come from the surburban counties of NYC and Philadelphia? Just curious?
Sure that factors in to our wealth since NJ is sandwiched between 2 major cities.
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Old 03-21-2010, 12:10 PM
 
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I rather live in a metro with steady controlled growth. Boom towns are doomed to bust, just take a look at cities like Orlando , etc.
Philadelphia Population History

If you look at Philadelphia and their population history, they were once a boomtown and if you follow your logic, they must have busted right?

The difference is that it boomed in the first half of the 20th century as opposed to boomtowns like Houston and Dallas currently.
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Old 03-21-2010, 12:13 PM
 
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Philadelphia Population History

If you look at Philadelphia and their population history, they were once a boomtown and if you follow your logic, they must have busted right?

The difference is that it boomed in the first half of the 20th century as opposed to boomtowns like Houston and Dallas currently.
Why dont you post the metro population numbers also.
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Old 03-21-2010, 12:23 PM
 
Location: East Coast of the United States
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Why dont you post the metro population numbers also.
Definitely, it will show that all of the northeast city metropolitan populations are larger today than at any time in history. Total population of the Washington, D.C. to Boston corridor = 55 million.

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Old 03-21-2010, 04:06 PM
 
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Orlando is fine. The recession hit it pretty hard because it was growing so fast when it happened but its not doomed, its going to continue to grow and recover. There is still a lot of construction going on and new things and places are opening all the time, its pretty exciting. If you wanna live in a old doomed city, look at anywhere in NJ
or Detroit
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Old 03-21-2010, 10:25 PM
 
Location: Surprise, AZ
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Definitely, it will show that all of the northeast city metropolitan populations are larger today than at any time in history. Total population of the Washington, D.C. to Boston corridor = 55 million.
...and what great sprawl that is.
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Old 03-21-2010, 10:41 PM
 
Location: metro ATL
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...and what great sprawl that is.
But that doesn't exist in the Northeast, only in the Sunbelt. [/sarcasm]

At any rate, I can live in a boomtown or a moderately-growing city, but I don't want to live in a stagnating or declining city.
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Old 03-22-2010, 12:18 AM
 
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Definitely, it will show that all of the northeast city metropolitan populations are larger today than at any time in history. Total population of the Washington, D.C. to Boston corridor = 55 million.

I know they are still getting larger, the point is that they were all boom towns at one point like the current sunbelt cities and they all went through small rough periods and are doing ok now I guess.

The difference is when they boomed
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Old 03-22-2010, 03:29 AM
 
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Boomtowns aren't doomed to bust. NYC, Chicago, Boston, Philly, were all boomtowns at one point. And they're still standing. So this notion that "the sunbelt cities are growing out of control and will bust" is all nothing but speculation, and not fact.
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Old 03-22-2010, 09:49 AM
 
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Boomtowns aren't doomed to bust. NYC, Chicago, Boston, Philly, were all boomtowns at one point. And they're still standing. So this notion that "the sunbelt cities are growing out of control and will bust" is all nothing but speculation, and not fact.
And also some of the older cities that aren't growing as much anymore are doing so for very obvious reasons - they're locked in by suburbs. A vast majority of boomtowns are booming because they have open land waiting for houses.

You have to look at metro growth to get an idea of what's booming. Just because a city isn't speeding ahead in population growth doesn't mean it isn't really healthy and thriving. Maybe all the new population growth is in the suburbs, but the city itself is constantly upgrading infrastructure, tearing down and rebuilding, gentrifying. I mean look at DC, Chicago, San Fran, etc. They're all healthy cities that aren't booming in population.

The harder cities boom, the more than tend to bust when the party finally ends. I feel more comfortable in an area that is able to keep up with the growth. Something 10-15% a decade.
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