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Old 07-18-2013, 11:57 AM
 
Location: SW FL
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Is anyone aware of the amount of therapeutic boarding schools, wilderness programs, and residential treatment centers are present in the state of Utah? It seems to be quite the profitable industry but I certainly question the morality of the system, given the fact that kids are sent there by force the majority of the time.

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Old 07-18-2013, 07:10 PM
 
Location: Salt Lake City/Las Vegas
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Yes, I am aware of Utah's juvenile treatment system (both public and private).

Do you have a question or were you simply taking a stance?

Bill (LCSW)
 
Old 07-18-2013, 07:48 PM
 
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Yes, I am aware of Utah's juvenile treatment system (both public and private).

Do you have a question or were you simply taking a stance?

Bill (LCSW)
I am wondering what the general consensus is among residents on the morality of this industry and whether or not (or to what to degree) it should function.
 
Old 07-18-2013, 10:41 PM
 
Location: Salt Lake City/Las Vegas
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I think our population generally knows that the vast majority of our juvenile treatment facilities/programs are what could be termed traditional. Though the more exotic programs garner some press attention, they don't represent the whole system.

I've seen a trend during the last ten years away from the extreme wilderness and boot camp type programs. That's the "tough love" stuff that's resulted in some deaths and shocked the conscience of the public. Frankly, I don't think it's the notoriety that's resulted in the cutbacks. It's been more of a business decision wherein it's just too much of a liability to expose the viability of the program(s) to that much risk.

All of Utah's residential juvenile treatment programs are licensed and monitored. The problems encountered over the years in a hand full of these programs have resulted in significantly stricter program requirements. It remains to be seen if the government's efforts in this area are effective. I'm betting they will be.

Bill
 
Old 07-22-2013, 10:05 AM
 
Location: "Happy (yeah right) Valley", UT
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There are a GREAT number of those programs here in UT. Some residential, some wilderness, some short term care, etc. I worked at one for over 8 years. Very physically, mentally, and emotionally draining.
 
Old 07-22-2013, 11:46 AM
 
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There are a GREAT number of those programs here in UT. Some residential, some wilderness, some short term care, etc. I worked at one for over 8 years. Very physically, mentally, and emotionally draining.
Some I believe are not being watched carefully enough.
 
Old 07-23-2013, 12:42 PM
 
Location: "Happy (yeah right) Valley", UT
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Some I believe are not being watched carefully enough.

Do you have background working in one of these programs? Being in one? Just an observation?

Curious to hear your take on them?
 
Old 07-23-2013, 05:04 PM
 
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Do you have background working in one of these programs? Being in one? Just an observation?

Curious to hear your take on them?
Thanks a lot for your input. Those who are not aware of the industry shouldn't definitely read the bullet points you posted to gain insight about the situation.
To start off, I did in fact attend a wilderness program for a couple months as well as a "therapeutic boarding school" for eight months. My overall time in the troubled teen industry circuit amounted to around eleven months.
Your point about programs investing too much time in effective marketing strategies to increase profit over the well being of its "students" is very valid and does not get the attention it deserves. I don't know if you are aware of aspen education group, but essentially they are a monopoly of sorts that own a fair amount of these troubled teen programs and have actually been acquired by Bain capital, an investment company that Mitt Rommey owns a share of.

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Some good can come out of these programs and I must admit I am probably a better man for getting through mine. However, the politics behind these organizations is downright seedy in some respects and some affirmative action needs to be taken.

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Old 07-26-2013, 10:10 AM
 
Location: "Happy (yeah right) Valley", UT
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Thanks a lot for your input. Those who are not aware of the industry shouldn't definitely read the bullet points you posted to gain insight about the situation.
To start off, I did in fact attend a wilderness program for a couple months as well as a "therapeutic boarding school" for eight months. My overall time in the troubled teen industry circuit amounted to around eleven months.
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Do you know if Aspen Educational is the therapeutic group that Dr. Phil is often referring people to?

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Old 07-26-2013, 12:48 PM
 
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Do you know if Aspen Educational is the therapeutic group that Dr. Phil is often referring people to?
I don't follow dr Phil so I couldn't answer this.
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