Non-mormon family looking to relocate to Lehi (Orem, South Jordan: camping, living)

[DP525]

Originally Posted by isakswings

It's interesting to me that you mention housing and employment discrimination. When we relocated here, religion was not brought up when we were looking for a house. As for employment, religion was not brought up when my husband transferred here OR when I applied for my own job. There are pleanty of non-LDS people who work and live in the area we live in. So I think your prospective is quite skewed.

I assume this post is directed at me. I don't believe I ever said anything about housing or employment discrimination. There were others who brought those subjects up. I was trying to find out if the rumors I had heard about non-LDS children being ostracized by LDS children were true. There have been a lot of different opinions on the subject based on peoples' different experiences. So with the advice we gathered from this forum in mind, we puposely place ourselves in an area that we believe to be more diverse and open. I am happy to say that so far in our short stay in Utah, we have not had any issues with the fact that we are not LDS. It has been enjoyable and hopefully we will continue to like it here.

[isakswings]

Originally Posted by I'ze Evil, Joe

Do half of the children leave mid-day and get to go to seminary? Oh wait, the formal brainwashing takes place around the 9th year of school I think. My apologies.

Honestly, Latter Day Saints are not the only religious folks who have their children attend religion classes. So, other religions have "formal brainwashing" too. I grew up Lutheran(now am LDS) and attended confirmation class every night for 2 yrs before I was confirmed. I was 13 and 14 when I took those classes. I had Catholic friends who attended religion classes and I had Jewish friends who also had religion classes. I don't think it is fair to make comments about seminary just because you don't agree with the religion. I agree with the previous poster, lose the hate. There is already too much of that in the world.

[isakswings]

Originally Posted by DP525

I assume this post is directed at me. I don't believe I ever said anything about housing or employment discrimination. There were others who brought those subjects up. I was trying to find out if the rumors I had heard about non-LDS children being ostracized by LDS children were true. There have been a lot of different opinions on the subject based on peoples' different experiences. So with the advice we gathered from this forum in mind, we puposely place ourselves in an area that we believe to be more diverse and open. I am happy to say that so far in our short stay in Utah, we have not had any issues with the fact that we are not LDS. It has been enjoyable and hopefully we will continue to like it here.

Oh goodness no! It was not directed at you. So sorry you thought that! I was replying to someone else. :-) I am not used to boards that don't place a reply directly under the original post! Sorry for ANY confusion.

BTW, I think your original concerns were completely valid! I think the research you did was wonderful. Sos orry if you thought I was responding to you! I wasn't AT ALL. :-) I'm so happy you like it here so far. I hope your experience continues to be positive. Where is Daybreak exactly? We live in Davis county, Layton area. My husband is currently commuting to the Micron plant in Lehi for work as an electrician. :-)

[DP525]

Originally Posted by isakswings

Oh goodness no! It was not directed at you. So sorry you thought that! I was replying to someone else. :-) I am not used to boards that don't place a reply directly under the original post! Sorry for ANY confusion.

BTW, I think your original concerns were completely valid! I think the research you did was wonderful. Sos orry if you thought I was responding to you! I wasn't AT ALL. :-) I'm so happy you like it here so far. I hope your experience continues to be positive. Where is Daybreak exactly? We live in Davis county, Layton area. My husband is currently commuting to the Micron plant in Lehi for work as an electrician. :-)

Use the "quote" button to respond to a specific post.

And you didn't offend me. I was responding because I thought you were referring to my original post.

Daybreak is in South Jordan. I am about 18 miles from IMFT (Micron).

[isakswings]

Originally Posted by DP525

Use the "quote" button to respond to a specific post.

And you didn't offend me. I was responding because I thought you were referring to my original post.

Daybreak is in South Jordan. I am about 18 miles from IMFT (Micron).

Ahhh ok! I know of South Jordan. :-) Glad I didn't offend you. Have a great day.

[digidi]

We don't live in Lehi but with all the high tech opportunities coming up in Lehi in the near future, I don't think Utahns will be able to fill all the gaps. Therefore there will be new families from out of state coming to settle. Our family with 3 children ages 9,14 and 17 live in a small rural town in Sanpete County. Before we moved here from a cosmopolitan city in Canada I spoke with the school principal, expressing my fears and hesitation as my children had attended Catholic schools up there. The principal was very kind but moved to another school. The current principal may have the we are holier than thou attitude towards my nine year old but I doubt it. I think the notion that there are so many other attributes to like or dislike in the world or in a person comes into play. True, I made it to the bar for the first time in five years only three weeks ago, and was truely drunk and with two other women who felt like exiles from town themselves. We could have gone to a party with men much younger than ourselves...but it would have been extremely ridiculous and unreal. There really is no social life. I was used to go to Montreal bars and Quebec discos when I was younger. Here, there isn't anything like that. You cannot go to a local pub and hang out without being labeled (if in your own subconscious) some kind of derilect. You are either a good person or you are almost criminal or downright bad...there doesn't seem to be any inbetween. The LDS who drink coffee or vodka do so but it really does have evil overtones, at least in this small rural town in Sanpete where 99% are Mormon. If you have children who will be attending school in Lehi, they will get a good education and there will be alot of options for them, but your social life might suffer. You can go to some good breweries in Park City or in Salt Lake City. Don't get me wrong. I don't really drink, and I really enjoy skiing. Utah can't be beat for the ski hills. The chalets seem to lack though, in atmosphere, compared to a Quebec chalet or even one in western Canada. If you like to camp, hike, extreme sports of any kind and enjoy the mountains, then you might like it here. I personally don't like the idea of being so far away from a swimable lake. I was actually surprised to discover that Utah has many lakes. Hope this helps. I worked in some highly LDS schools where I was never confronted with respect to my religion, though, I must admit, it took me awhile to understand what 'the relief society' and 'wards' etc. were as I had no clue. I have yet to read the Book of Mormon and that is my ignorance. Growing up with the Catholic catechism helped fulfil my yearning for learning. I really feel bad that my children aren't really able to practice much religion. They are not part of the LDS faith boy scouts, girl's camps...though they have gone to baptisms and certainly have been invited to attend. My children have gone to birthday parties etc. but somehow on the football field or the soccer field I have had my doubts about who is going to pitch, etc. Though I have never really blamed anything on being non Mormon. I did read one passage about how people are mean and are not kind to one another and how the mormon family was shunned by her neighbours when they tried to be hospitable. I noticed that around here too. Maybe it's that there are so few cultures here that people are so insular. I don't understand it. I've never felt so alienated in my life.Though you can attribute feelings of alienation to one religion or another or one culture or another. Imagine the north versus the south....Catholics versus Protestants....English versus French....Americans versus the Taliban....I dunno...I'm more worried about the millions of orphaned children in Africa who's parents have died of Aids and the girls who are mutilated at such a young age...We should be happy that we have the freedom to even contemplate all this stuff.

[chasto]

The only problem with Utah is the inablity to seperate Church from State. Utah coounty is a great place for those who are of the faith. Lots of churches, temples and NO BARS! If you are looking for a better mix, Move a little further north to Sandy. This is where Dry meets Drink. More people will be moving into this area beacuse of the rating that was given by Forbes Magazine. #23 best place to live. Move out of Utah county into easy livi'n. Closer to the Downtown area. More fun.

[snomom2000]

My husband is re-locating for IMFT also. His start date is 11-22 although he's trying to get it changed because he's not done with his training in Manassas, Virginia until 11-15! Where are you re-locating from?

[snomom2000]

Wow! I've been reading through this thread and am disturbed by much of what I am reading! I had no idea there was still so much bigotry in this day and age! I agree that kids will be kids and they form their groups and those groups are hard to penetrate. I've also learned from experience and observation that these groups are usually mixed race and religion. Kids see the best and worst in people regardless of the "package". There are always bad apples in every race and religion. Also, there are always mini-cultures in every area. In the Washington DC area you can't watch the news without hearing about all our "esteemed" politicians and all their dirty secrets as well as how many women were raped and children accosted. That's part of what you deal with living in that area. In New Mexico the Mexican culture is very prevalent. If you don't like that don't live there. Everyone knows that Utah is predominantly Morman. If you don't like that don't live there. Of course the news is going to be full of LDS stuff! If you go into a situation with an open mind and understanding that everyone is not like you and that's okay then you will fare well in life. My husband, baptist at the time, spent his teen years in Utah, his father owned a business and was not LDS either. My husband said that the LDS they knew were very nice people always willing to help a neighbor, LDS or not, likely convert or not. I've been conversing online with a very nice LDS women and have felt no pressure from her. She's been very helpful and supportive in her emails and only mentioned that she was LDS in passing and to let me know that Utah was very LDS in case I didn't know and had a problem with that. I like what someone posted at the beginning of this thread - I may not agree with another person, may even believe their religious beliefs are wrong, but in the end that other person has to answer for their own soul as I have to answer for mine. Do you really think bigots will be rewarded at the end?

[LlasaLost]

Great post, snomom (did I get that name right?)---anyway, I'd like to suggest that, although Mormons don't walk on water, they just may not be as bad as some of the posters here seem to think. Perhaps a little bigotry now and then on the part of non-LDS? Actually, I feel sorry for the poster who seems to feel that her main social-life has to revolve around bars and so there was nothing to do in UT!

By the way, when I was a wee person SLC was about 70% LDS, and some of the smaller towns in the state would go up to 90 to 100% LDS. However, it's my understanding that now SLC (and environs) is hovering around 40% LDS and most of the smaller cities are about 60%. SO--if you move here you won't necessarily be drowning in Mormons!