Which of the major UT cities have the smallest percentage of LDS? (Park City: car insurance, utilities)

[alexei27]

I would worry less about where the Mormons are/aren't...and more where the good schools are. There are some pretty horrific school districts in Utah...because there just isn't enough tax base to put money into education.

[lolagranola]

Originally Posted by frogandtoad

I totally agree that the question should not be "where are the fewest LDS" but think it would be fine to ask "where is there religious diversity?" These are very different questions to me.

That said, I will point out that if you were on here a couple of weeks ago you will remember that someone came on and specifically asked for the "whitest" suburb of SLC--some racial diversity was not what was requested, it was as many white people as is possible. The response was NOT outcry. The response was everyone (with 2 exceptions) on this board commenting that they thought nothing was wrong with wanting an all-white neighborhood, and lots of people gave suggestions to find it.

I am hopeful that this thread will illuminate to those who think it's not OK to ask about the "least LDS area" will see that it was/is also not appropriate to ask where the "whitest area" is.

some diversity? Fine, sure, if you're not the dominanat religion, race, ethnic group, etc. it is nice to see others who also are not. But to try to avoid people completely b/c of religion, race, etc.? Yikes.

THAT "whitest area" thread was one which I did NOT respond to. It TOTALLY pssed me off. As I said a few days ago, I do not participate here often anymore because I am sick to death of the us/them thing going on here. And to respond to that thread would 1) just bring a nasty comment from me; and 2) keep the thread at the top of the page. Let it die, and hope the MF doesn't live in my town.

Yes I am adopting, just awaiting my immigration papers!

[coolcats]

Originally Posted by lolagranola

As I said a few days ago, I do not participate here often anymore because I am sick to death of the us/them thing going on here.

What are some suggestions to improve the tone that permeates the forum?

[newtoutah]

Like I said in my other post...people warn me not to go to West Valley because its "scary" I want to know what makes it so scary honestly

[frogandtoad]

Originally Posted by lolagranola

THAT "whitest area" thread was one which I did NOT respond to. It TOTALLY pssed me off. As I said a few days ago, I do not participate here often anymore because I am sick to death of the us/them thing going on here. And to respond to that thread would 1) just bring a nasty comment from me; and 2) keep the thread at the top of the page. Let it die, and hope the MF doesn't live in my town.

Yes I am adopting, just awaiting my immigration papers!

Yeh, they got nasty comments from me on it!

Congrats on your adoption--domestic or int'l? We adopted from Ethiopia.

[frogandtoad]

Originally Posted by coolcats

What are some suggestions to improve the tone that permeates the forum?

I think a lot of it rises from ignorance. My guess is that many people who ask "where are the fewest LDS" really mean "where is there some religious diversity?" The latter question is so much more acceptable, and I feel like it's probably what most mean, but don't say.

This kind of reminds me of comments people make regarding my son: "do you know anything about his REAL mother?" "So nice that you have YOUR OWN children and you also have an adopted child", etc. People just don't understand sometimes what they are saying. I am his REAL mother, but I imagine they mean biological mother. He is my OWN child. I'm the only one cleaning up after him!

The best I can say from my experience with dealing with ignorant questions on adoption are that I think you teach people when you respond kindly. Like asking "do you mean where there is religious diversity or do you mean you can't stand LDS because it is coming across like you despise LDS." I think most people would say Oh No! I meant diversity, not avoidance!! Now for those who are flat out seeking avoidance (like our white seeking companion the other week), that's a whole different story and totally offensive.

But I think we should assume ignorance and try to inform how the wording can be insulting. Hopefully going forward then they would be more careful. If they are immediately attacked, I think they come off with a really bad taste in their mouth and doesn't help anything.

My 2 cents

Edit: sorry, wanted to add one thing. I do not think it's appropriate (my opinion only!) to just treat a question like "where are fewest LDS" and "what are the very whitest areas" with a simple "helpful" answer without trying to explain to the person that it can be perceived as offensive. If someone then proves themself to be racist (like that guy), then I really don't think anyone should be helping him!! I was more shocked at all the people who thought it was fine to help that guy than at the original question!! It validated his racism to have people say sure, let me help you find an area with no black people. Same with LDS. This is not anything enforceable of course--just my opinion!

[alamph_0904]

Park city is expensive - but if you look right outside the heart of park city you can find a decent size home for around 450K. Not bad and a gorgeous area.

[newtoutah]

See to me Park City isn't expensive..its just like MD in some places.....Utah is cheap

[Chickrae]

Originally Posted by newtoutah

Like I said in my other post...people warn me not to go to West Valley because its "scary" I want to know what makes it so scary honestly

My son lived there for 5 years before he moved to Syracuse. He didn't think it was scary at all. The home values don't keep their value as much (not sure why) but then every areas home values are dropping. I think there are desirable and less desirable areas of West Valley. I also heard the city of Roy was scary too and downtown Ogden...so I guess everyone has their opinion.

[Lmejh]

Originally Posted by newtoutah

See to me Park City isn't expensive..its just like MD in some places.....Utah is cheap

And that is why so many people from California and elsewhere move here