Any info. for the Nephi area -non-LDS (Salt Lake City, Provo: appointed, crime)

[mtcsr.]

I am looking foreward to possibly moving to Nephi.My daughter and teenage{13} grand-daughter will be moving with us.My wife grew up in the LDS but fell away from the church many years ago.Occasionaly we still get the missionarys stopping by wanting to talk. Not a problem, we just tell them we are not currently interested and to have a nice day. The concerns I have are the other kids the same age as my lovely g-daughter ,going to treat her badly because she is not part of the LDS Church. This I would NOT TOLLERATE. I have lived in So.California 45 years,I am 60 and have learned to bring the problems directly to those that cause them. Tollerance for bad behavior is something I lost many years ago.I am asking if the Nephi area is just or just not the place for me and my Family? Honest and straight foreward answers would be the desired replies,I'm looking for. "NO BULL" I am not looking to be converted to LDS and not interested in diatribes about all the good thing they do. My motto is LIVE AND LET LIVE. Can I find this for my family in Nephi or not. If I stepped on someone toes,I appologize-BUT NEXT TIME MOVE YOUR FEET BEFORE I GET THERE.Appologizes are a onetime deal with me.

[Deser]

My family is also thinking of moving to Utah, as we have heard many good things about Utah. I also have grand children.. Some of our family are LDS. some are not.I was baptised at an early age and wanted to be Morman. My great (many) grandfather was one of Joseph Smiths Assistances, Benjamin Franklin Johnson. I chose as a young child to join the church. But as the years went by, did not continue to practice. In any event I have heard that if you are not LDS your kids or otherwise will not be accepted by the community.... and will have problems with other children in the schools..... is anyone willing to reply or respond to me?? are my concerns true? thanks Janet

[emptynester]

I moved to Utah from Northern California in '94 and had no LDS affiliation. My, then, 14 year old daughter had a difficult time acquiring new friends and fitting into the community. It wasn't that the young people were openly hostile, they just had so many church friends and activities that they didn't have time to associate with non-LDS people. Wish I could give you more hope, but the fact is, your children and grandchildren, will definitely have a difficult time acclimating to this environment. I think it's easier the closer you get to Salt Lake City, but still an issue even there. If you can put them into a non-LDS private school, that could help. Also, the more extra curricular activities they are involved in, the better. I've found, even for the adults, Utah is a difficult place socially if you are not LDS.

[Deser]

Thank you for your information I hope others will talk to me about this. I do not want to think badly of my Religion of choice. Even tho it has been many years. Do I want to come back? not sure at this point with the information I have read.. Thank you all Janet

[Deser]

I guess I scared everyone off,by being too blunt.I feel that I am just like all of those sitting on the sidelines like now.I am addament about protecting my family from anyone that is willing to do them harm.The difference is I'm willing to state it openly.I feel the same about my neighbors and close friends.I do not have to be asked to stand beside them when they need help or support.This is something that is understood by friends.If you don't want my help in any situation,you better tell me before I get there.I will be disappointed,to be sure,but you know I'm there without asking.Family,ALWAYS,comes first.Close friends are part of my family.Non-critical of each others but with understanding of the individuals that we are.If this scares you off and keeps you on the sidelines,maybe thats where you are confortable.Sadly, you have a chance to make a good friend or at the very least a very interesting acquaintance.A lose for both of us to be sure.

[mtcsr.]

Well I tried to reply to all those reading this forum and found out my wife had tried to take the softer route trying to get a response from someone and succeeded in geting one person to reply.I went back to the forum and posted another posting.SUPPRISE!!!!!I DIDN'T KNOW SHE HAD REGESTERED.Sent the posting in thinking it would be under my I.D. not hers.Just goes to show you how conffused a one fingered typist can be.She understands how important this move could be for us.I have MS and can look foreward to a steady,albut,hopefully slow slide into a wheelchair.This move is to get my family out of this nest of idiots that now populate California.I need to get them somewhere they,and I can be assured of safety and the help they will need in the future.This will be my last move and I need to know I'm doing the right thing. Your participation is neede. Please give us the help and understanding we need at this time.Mark And Janet

[emptynester]

Does it have to be Nephi? While I have no direct knowledge with that particular area, my guess is that it is very heavily populated by LDS faithful and much less open to outsiders. I'd think you might find a much more diverse community within the Salt Lake valley. While it is a larger city, it is still very safe and there are wonderful areas to raise a family. Some of the areas within the valley still have a small town feel to them. If for some reason Nephi is the area you must move to, you may decide to join the church. Many people (not me) do when they relocate here.

[mtcsr.]

There are several reasons for picking Nephi.The size of the town,it has the high school,freeway ,a short drive to Provo for any major shopping and most important,medical facilities nearby.At this time all my medical is provided by the VA.They have a small clinic [AS REPORTED] in Nephi,a permanent clinic in Provo and the VA hospital in SL.My sons' in-laws live in Castle Dale and is only a 2 hr. drive for either of us to visit.Yes ,he is LDS as is all his family.We are all sick of the large cities and the inherient problems that come with them. The area I live in had about 30,000 people living in 6 communities when I moved here 45 years ago.All together, they now have about500,000 and are seperated by a yellow line in the center of the street.Now - I want to get away from all of it.The gangs,drugs,traffic,ill-manored adults and their like minded children,the all-night parties[heard from as far away as 2 miles]that only the police can shut down,the gunfire in the middle-of-the-night,the crime eliment[home grown and visiting from LA] and the list goes on and on.

[emptynester]

Well, unless you're willing to convert to LDS, I'd recommend heading north to the salt lake valley. It's alot more diverse and your grand-daughter will have an easier time being accepted. I'd check out South Jordan or somewhere in that area. Nephi may be a smaller town but, with that comes other issues. I think you can still accomplish the same goals by heading closer to the city. Best of luck to you and your family in whatever you decide.

[mtcsr.]

Emptynester,Thanks for the replies thusfar.My daughter and I are leaving tommorrow [5:30 am] for Nephi and surrounding areas to find out how the people react to the same questions I've asked here.As a last resort we'll look in the Castle Dale area.They have a VA local clinic in Price. Just alot futher to drive in an emergency,[Price-Provo-Salt Lake].I find it hard to believe that so many people, that will walk the streets,talking to all they see at length ,are so quite about their hometown.Is a demonstration of openness and candor so forign to them without the Churches approval,that they would sit silently with no offer of help? This is the Church I would be EXPECTED TO JOIN ? Amazing!! I am already a member because I married a member of the LDS. My son informed me of this when he was baptised prior to being married. He also doesn't believe the church discriminates against non-LDS. We hope not but this forum hasn't provided one bit of information that I asked for,but suggests we look for an area with more diversity.I AM DIVERSITY LOOKING FOR A PLACE TO SETTLE .