Utah Valley - Can we be allowed to share our experiences? (restaurant, food)

[michelleleigh]

Like I keep saying we have had a good, experiance in Utah County. Its a quirky state wich most people by now should know I think is a good thing. The people here are really friendly and helpfull, something wich is rare thees days(then againg DH thinks I am really quirky). I do not think most people care that we are not LDS and if they do oh well. Life is way to short to worrry about such things and the world way to wonderful.
Blessings Michelleleigh

[poodledoodledude]

Originally Posted by Kermusique

What I can't believe is people that are LDS that tell me I need to move out of Utah county and that they wouldn't even live there. Why do they feel like that? That's terrible to feel like people just can't get along!

I agree with you kermusique...i LOVE it down here, and i'm not LDS. i'm close enough to salt lake to get away, but salt lake is no san fran either! i mean, sometimes these message boards make it sound like salt lake is like: LAS VEGAS or something... it's all utah folks...enjoy it for what it IS, rather than what it is NOT.

poodledoodledude

[smackythefrog]

Originally Posted by JaneyBlu

We just felt we weren't good enough or likeable enough. Instead, we were just a different religion and that seemed to really irk a lot of people. I often ask myself how this may have affected who we have become as adults. For example, all but one of us has two masters degrees apiece. I kind of wonder if it had something to do with making up for feeling inadequate as non-Mormon rejects growing up in Utah during the 1980s. Just a thought...

That describes my life right there. I lived in NY until I was 12, I always remembered myself as outgoing and very sociable, I had friends from many backgrounds mexicans, italians, africans, white protestants, chinese, jewish. When I moved to Utah I had 3 friends, whereas everyone else in school were close friends. I started thinking that I was antisocial or not likeable.

I had relatives who moved here from Texas who had no success either, while I delved further into antisocial behaviors, they were very outgoing. They talked about the parties they went to and showed me pictures of all the hot girls they dated when they lived in Texas. Since they've moved to Utah, they spent every weekend playing World of Warcraft. I had a few friends to hang out with, they didn't have a single one. The only person that hung out with them was me.

Socializing is hard that's about the only thing I don't like about Utah. I would be lying if my experiences were all bad in Utah.

Pros:
Hot girls, the hottest ones are rarely LDS because they get so much sexual advances.
Awesome outdoors, some of the most fun I've had.
Generally good people.

[LEAVINGTHEWEST]

If by Utah Valley you mean Utah County - then yes I can believe these issues occurr. Utah County is know to be very LDS and very conservative.

I myself live just on the other side of the hill in Salt Lake County (Draper specifically), I am not LDS, I am not Catholic. My son has had simular issues but not to the same degree. He does have one Morman friend and I have a few as well - however they are non practicing and tend to be more open to outsiders. Most of my neighbors were very friendly when we first moved here, but once they found out I was a "divorced" mom and not LDS, they no longer associate. But that's fine, I tend to keep to myself as well.

I figure if someone is going to be that shallow and judgemental - then they really are not the type of person I want to associate with anyway.

Utah is a very nice place and there are alot of nice people here too. It just takes time to get to know them.

If you plan on staying in Utah, you might want to check out different communities. They are all not the same. The closer you get to the city the more tolerent people seem to be.

Good Luck and hang in there

[dackerie]

I am not so sure why they would ostracize you for being a single divorced mother. Many of the Mormons I know are divorced, married, divorced again, remarried, divorced and then remarried.. . It does not appear to be a big deal in the LDS religion. I really think they are very friendly people and helpful to a point. However, I am told that there is a limit to there relationships with non-LDS people. They are encouraged to "recruit" the non-LDS. Outside that it is frowned upon to socialize with non-LDS.

It does seem there is an influx of people from other states. This is diluting the overall population of most areas. And given the number of non-practicing LDS, it appears to be easier to live and work in Utah. Personally, I prefer not associating with practicing Mormons. I am not trying to be discriminating, but I really have nothing in common with them. I am deeply religious but my belief system clashes with their's. However, in everyday life I am sociable and kind to everyone.

[lolagranola]

However, I am told that there is a limit to there relationships with non-LDS people. They are encouraged to "recruit" the non-LDS. Outside that it is frowned upon to socialize with non-LDS

This hasn't been my experience AT ALL. For the last 8 yrs I have lived in 3 different areas in Davis Co. My family and myself have been very welcomed and invited to be involved. The majority of people I interact with are LDS and my non-membership has never been an issue. We are very good friends with several of them...."good" as in going on vacation with them.

I think most Christian churches are told to "spread the word", so this is not unique to the LDS. And there is a huge difference between "let me give you this book of Mormon", and "would you like to come to our Relief Society activity tonight?"

[kimc53ssz28]

Originally Posted by smackythefrog

That describes my life right there. I lived in NY until I was 12, I always remembered myself as outgoing and very sociable, I had friends from many backgrounds mexicans, italians, africans, white protestants, chinese, jewish. When I moved to Utah I had 3 friends, whereas everyone else in school were close friends. I started thinking that I was antisocial or not likeable.

I had relatives who moved here from Texas who had no success either, while I delved further into antisocial behaviors, they were very outgoing. They talked about the parties they went to and showed me pictures of all the hot girls they dated when they lived in Texas. Since they've moved to Utah, they spent every weekend playing World of Warcraft. I had a few friends to hang out with, they didn't have a single one. The only person that hung out with them was me.

Socializing is hard that's about the only thing I don't like about Utah. I would be lying if my experiences were all bad in Utah.

Pros:
Hot girls, the hottest ones are rarely LDS because they get so much sexual advances.
Awesome outdoors, some of the most fun I've had.
Generally good people.

Sounds like my experience. I was born in Idaho Falls and then moved to San Luis Obispo California when I was 6, moved to Orem when I was 7. I NEVER had to work to make friends in Either Idaho or Cali. People were so much more accepting and friendly and they liked me for me. but I knew even at the age of 7, there was something off about Utah County people, the kids were so so so rude. This caused me, an already shy person, to become a total introvert. My brothers and sisters left as soon as they could to go back to Idaho to live with my dad cause they hated it to. I was treated like -ish coming from a broken home living in a half average/ half wealthy ward, needless to say, My childhood would have been better if we hadn't moved here, but what can you do? I don't care anymore, I'm an adult now and live my life the way I want to.

Bottom line is, yes Utah County is weird, it really is, but just deal with it or move. I've lived many places and they all have goods and bads, I live in Orem right now for the time being and I just deal with it, I like it here thanks to a large group of friends that I have alot in common with, also, don't worry about how other people here are, just be happy with yourself and tell them to F*** off if they give you grief. But...I can sure as hell tell you I will not raise my kids in Utah County

[Lmejh]

Here's the deal. Utah County is a crap shoot. There has been post after post that has been contradicted, proving that results may vary.

[osugirl2]

Originally Posted by Lmejh

Here's the deal. Utah County is a crap shoot. There has been post after post that has been contradicted, proving that results may vary.

Yes, but I have an extremely devout, lifelong mormon friend who lives in Provo, and even she feels it's a little much there. This is a girl that was extremely offended after watching National Lampoon's christmas vacation, and watches no R rated movies amoung other things. I'm thinking if even she finds if uncomfortable there, than the average non-mormon outsider is probably going to be uncomfortable as well.

[Chango]

Originally Posted by flyinlow

Hell! i'm a native of Utah and would never consider living in the holy land (Utah County) if you can consider residing in Utah County living.

amen to that. That is the LAST place in the state I would consider living in.