Utah Valley - Can we be allowed to share our experiences? (Salt Lake City: living in, moving to)

[kaytidid]

Originally Posted by osugirl2

Also,

what is the growing season like around there? Are there enough warm months to grow a garden of any kind? I'm kind of a foodie, so I like to grow some of my herbs and veggies that I cook with frequently :

Gardening is a huge thing in Utah! It is plenty warm enough for a long growing season. You have your cool weather fruits and veggies and then your summer fruits and veggies.

[osugirl2]

awesome!!

[stycotl]

Originally Posted by Cycle

kaytidid,
Again, there is no need for angry emotional responses and attempts to pick apart what I have gone through, it is what it is. Please accept the fact that "it is a rude human thing" is your opinion, I do not agree and that is ok, we are allowed to have different opinions that is what life in America is about. I have looked at this issue from both sides (I have lived it and continue to live it every day for the last eight months going into the ninth) and I keep coming back to the same conclusion especially when I have two neighbors who are LDS and not from here telling me that the Mormons in this neighborhood do not accept outsiders, even them...You can keep trying to pick a fight with me but I will not engage, your opinion is directly related to your experiences and I am glad that you have had wonderful experiences in Utah...my opinion is directly related to my experiences and no matter how hard you try you cannot change what has already happened, my perception of what has happened or my kids perception of how they have been treated by our Mormon neighbors. What you can do is allow people to speak freely about their experiences so that some open dialogue might open some eyes and maybe this exclusionary behavior (whether intentional or not) can be stopped and tolerance, kindness and consideration can be learned.
Respectfully,
Cycle

i think that you are the only one reading anger into kaytidid's responses. if others are thinking along those same lines, they're welcome to raise their hand and speak up obviously. i think that you are just misunderstanding her reactions, or purposefully exaggerating what they mean. either way, it is not conducive to cooperative conversation; it keeps coming off as condescending or passive-aggressive.

obviously this is my own perspective though, and that might not be your intent. but coupled with your admission of accepting and operating on generalizations, it might very well fit.

You rebel you....

not so much a rebel as an idiot with anger problems. i'm trying though; it's just taking lonegr than i wanted.

aaron out.

[kaytidid]

Originally Posted by stycotl

not so much a rebel as an idiot with anger problems. i'm trying though; it's just taking lonegr than i wanted.

I would highly disagree, but we love you anyway, Aaron!

[stycotl]

Originally Posted by kaytidid

I would highly disagree, but we love you anyway, Aaron!

well thank you. i certainly need all the positive influences i can get.

[Chickrae]

Originally Posted by osugirl2

I'm not quite sure what we're going to do yet. I own a house here in Oklahoma which I will probably keep and rent out. I'm a civilian employee so I'll be making decent money, but unless my SO has a job before we get there we would probably only be able to use my income to qualify for a mortgage which could make it tricky. I hold a real estate license here in OKC, so I'm all about the benefits of home ownership, but since I have no clue what I'm getting into and since it seems that the right area is key there, I'm leaning towards renting for awhile before I buy. I did look at Real Estate in Layton and noticed it was very reasonably priced and that the price per square foot was similar to where I'm from.

Just realized you are moving from Oklahoma....go OSU. I live in the Tulsa area. I did notice prices of homes are wayyyyyy cheap here. But you would absolutely love Layton. I miss it.

[Chickrae]

Originally Posted by osugirl2

My best friend has been a Mormon for over five years and she has several in-laws that reside in Utah, so just from listening to her I've learned quite a bit about Mormon culture, however even though she thinks it won't be a big deal that I'm non LDS, it seems like most of the posts and forums under Utah end up in some sort of LDS vs. non-LDS conversation which tells me that it's a subject that occupies a lot of people's minds around there. We love the outdoors and are very social people, but I mostly worry about my little boy (even though he's only two now....), because I would hate for him to experience being an outcast just because mom had to move for her job....lol Any thoughts or sugestions would be greatly appreciated!

This is how I would compare it. You are from the bible belt......lots of baptists. If a mormon moved to the bible belt, they would feel the same as a baptist moving to Utah where there are lots of mormons. If that makes sense. Only because it happened to me!

[osugirl2]

Originally Posted by Chickrae

Just realized you are moving from Oklahoma....go OSU. I live in the Tulsa area. I did notice prices of homes are wayyyyyy cheap here. But you would absolutely love Layton. I miss it.

I love Tulsa! We always have so much fun when we go out up there

[Lmejh]

Just so you know, this whole thread does not apply to the area you're moving, north of Salt Lake City. Rather, it's about the area south of Salt Lake County, into Provo.

[osugirl2]

Originally Posted by Chickrae

This is how I would compare it. You are from the bible belt......lots of baptists. If a mormon moved to the bible belt, they would feel the same as a baptist moving to Utah where there are lots of mormons. If that makes sense. Only because it happened to me!

Yes it does, thanks for the insight