Daybreak UT (Salt Lake City, Oquirrh: spring break, 2011, house)

[ueadian]

Originally Posted by LAFrench

In the past, I remember someone telling me that Draper was nice and also has other schools, as well. I may have to keep my eye on these areas if/when we can move to UT.

I've lived in Draper for years. I've lived pretty much everywhere else in Utah as well. We are moving to daybreak next month. Draper is way overpriced, lexus / bmw / juagar 600k 3000 sqrfeet homes. My parents own one of them, they live in a really nice neighborhood but you have to be pretty rich to live here. But there are tons of stores and resturaunts and virtually no crime (unlike in the north part of SLC west valley midvale and magna are all really bad). We love renting in draper but its quickly becomming more expensive then buying a house! We pay 875 for our ONE bedroom apartment in one of only 2 complexes in Draper. Only crappy thing about Daybreak is HOA fee. Crappy becausee its 10% of our mortage cost, that's just not right. I know they have the most bang for your HOA fee in Daybreak but 180 is excessive. Our mortage will be 1038 so the HOA is actually more then 10%. But with the 6 grand + 8 grand + 3 grand + 2 grand in FREE money we are getting, can't really complain. Only thing I worry about is the traffic there will be when it's finished. The streets arer alll kind of small, and traffic is already pretty bad there and they arent even 50% done. I also worry that the appreciation in the properties willl be crap till the entire thing is done. Why buy 4 years old when you can get new for a little more?

[11thHour]

I've looked around daybreak a few times. I realize there are different neighborhoods, so this doesn't apply to all. But overall, the homes were so darn close to each other, the yards were almost non existent, and I saw lots of common driveways. Reminded me of the older communities back east. So I guess for those who don't mind that type of living, it would be great. But at my price range, I don't like what I see. Plus, I want to build a workshop, have a storage shed, and a large greenhouse for my tropicals. I'm guessing the HOA would nix that.

[LAFrench]

There has to be areas in Draper that one can get a nice house for $250K - $300K.... I cannot imagine nothing but million dollar houses in the whole town...

Originally Posted by ueadian

I've lived in Draper for years. I've lived pretty much everywhere else in Utah as well. We are moving to daybreak next month. Draper is way overpriced, lexus / bmw / juagar 600k 3000 sqrfeet homes. My parents own one of them, they live in a really nice neighborhood but you have to be pretty rich to live here. But there are tons of stores and resturaunts and virtually no crime (unlike in the north part of SLC west valley midvale and magna are all really bad). We love renting in draper but its quickly becomming more expensive then buying a house! We pay 875 for our ONE bedroom apartment in one of only 2 complexes in Draper. Only crappy thing about Daybreak is HOA fee. Crappy becausee its 10% of our mortage cost, that's just not right. I know they have the most bang for your HOA fee in Daybreak but 180 is excessive. Our mortage will be 1038 so the HOA is actually more then 10%. But with the 6 grand + 8 grand + 3 grand + 2 grand in FREE money we are getting, can't really complain. Only thing I worry about is the traffic there will be when it's finished. The streets arer alll kind of small, and traffic is already pretty bad there and they arent even 50% done. I also worry that the appreciation in the properties willl be crap till the entire thing is done. Why buy 4 years old when you can get new for a little more?

[kaytidid]

Originally Posted by LAFrench

There has to be areas in Draper that one can get a nice house for $250K - $300K.... I cannot imagine nothing but million dollar houses in the whole town...

Absolutely there are!
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[DP525]

Originally Posted by 11thHour

I've looked around daybreak a few times. I realize there are different neighborhoods, so this doesn't apply to all. But overall, the homes were so darn close to each other, the yards were almost non existent, and I saw lots of common driveways. Reminded me of the older communities back east. So I guess for those who don't mind that type of living, it would be great. But at my price range, I don't like what I see. Plus, I want to build a workshop, have a storage shed, and a large greenhouse for my tropicals. I'm guessing the HOA would nix that.

That is the whole point. Daybreak is INTENTIONALLY designed to mimic older urban areas like Sugarhouse and the Avenues. It is most obviously reflected in the tradition architectures of the homes. It is intentionally designed to not be like all the other beige stucco suburban neighborhoods in Utah. Daybreak is a sustainable community meaning it is low water and power use, among other things. The smaller yards and landscaping requirements are designed to be water efficient. All homes in Daybreak are Energy Star certified. The trade off for the smaller yards is the many parks and green spaces. This also encourages community interaction by drawing people out of their yards to the parks.

The requirements that all homes have front porches, are pushed toward the street, and have the garages pushed back or accessed from alleyways, along with the smaller rear yards also draws people out front instead of hiding in the backyard. Our street is a hub of activity on on the warm summer evenings with kids playing and adults talking. We had two block barbeques last summer where we blocked off our street. Most blocks do the same thing.

So 11thHour, I would agree with you that Daybreak is NOT for everyone. But if you like actually getting to know your neighbors and interact with them, enjoy paying low utility bills and water bills, appreciate not spending all weekend mowing so you can fish, canoe, sail, kayak, row, walk, run, cycle, swim, work-out, play tennis, basketball, or volleyball, or just hang out on the front porch....you might like it in Daybreak.

[LAFrench]

This sounds like a nice place to live and raise children.
I will have to keep this place in mind for the future.

Originally Posted by DP525

That is the whole point. Daybreak is INTENTIONALLY designed to mimic older urban areas like Sugarhouse and the Avenues. It is most obviously reflected in the tradition architectures of the homes. It is intentionally designed to not be like all the other beige stucco suburban neighborhoods in Utah. Daybreak is a sustainable community meaning it is low water and power use, among other things. The smaller yards and landscaping requirements are designed to be water efficient. All homes in Daybreak are Energy Star certified. The trade off for the smaller yards is the many parks and green spaces. This also encourages community interaction by drawing people out of their yards to the parks.

The requirements that all homes have front porches, are pushed toward the street, and have the garages pushed back or accessed from alleyways, along with the smaller rear yards also draws people out front instead of hiding in the backyard. Our street is a hub of activity on on the warm summer evenings with kids playing and adults talking. We had two block barbeques last summer where we blocked off our street. Most blocks do the same thing.

So 11thHour, I would agree with you that Daybreak is NOT for everyone. But if you like actually getting to know your neighbors and interact with them, enjoy paying low utility bills and water bills, appreciate not spending all weekend mowing so you can fish, canoe, sail, kayak, row, walk, run, cycle, swim, work-out, play tennis, basketball, or volleyball, or just hang out on the front porch....you might like it in Daybreak.

[Tim Tim Tim]

there are more then enough houses in draper that are affordable. Sure, if you want one of the huge ones on the top of the hill with a view of the entire valley, your going to pay. there are tons of nice houses in the 2-400k range.

[LAFrench]

Thanks for the update.
I was really hoping to hear that.
How are things going for you with work?
Meeting and/or making any friends there?

Originally Posted by Tim Tim Tim

there are more then enough houses in draper that are affordable. Sure, if you want one of the huge ones on the top of the hill with a view of the entire valley, your going to pay. there are tons of nice houses in the 2-400k range.

[Tim Tim Tim]

works going ok. There getting pretty rediculous with there micromanaging every single move we make. Itll do untill I get something better though.. Not making a ton of friends but thats my own fault, im still trying to pay off bad debt from florida so I dont want to waste money on going out and doing stuff yet. Plenty of people have tried to hang out with me though haha. People offer to take me fishing alot when I tell them I have never gone fly flishing or somthing.. thats nice, there complete strangers though and its still a bit wierd to me for people to be so nice.. I have trust issues haha

[lolagranola]

But if you like actually getting to know your neighbors and interact with them, enjoy paying low utility bills and water bills, appreciate not spending all weekend mowing so you can fish, canoe, sail, kayak, row, walk, run, cycle, swim, work-out, play tennis, basketball, or volleyball, or just hang out on the front porch....you might like it in Daybreak.

If I was in the market for a new residence, you'd have me sold!

Plenty of people have tried to hang out with me though haha. People offer to take me fishing ........there complete strangers though and its still a bit wierd to me for people to be so nice.. I have trust issues haha

You should take them up occassionally, or they'll think you're not interested in meeting people!