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Old 09-10-2018, 12:05 PM
 
Location: CA, OR & WA (Best Coast)
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As we know Californians have been moving to Oregon and Washington for many years; I am no exception. We moved here three years ago due all the typical reasons you see posted here on CD. Portland was our first choice but it just didn’t make sense with Vancouver being so close and having the much bigger benefit of no tax x 2. I honestly said, “Why doesn’t everyone move here?”

Since living here, we have met many affluent locals (Portland and Vancouver) and it’s amazing the number of people who are looking to get out of Portland and into Vancouver, or have already moved to Vancouver from Portland. The number one reason is the tax x 2 benefit.

To be fair not everyone wants to come to “Vantucky” but a good percentage of the people I know do and are actively looking or have already moved.

So is this a new phenomenon or has it the norm?
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Old 09-10-2018, 12:19 PM
 
Location: We_tside PNW (Columbia Gorge) / CO / SA TX / Thailand
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Been going on for 40 yrs (I-205 helped encourage commute ~ 1982)

Been rapidly changing the last 2 yrs (after Mayor Hales embraced the homeless camping in city parks and properties initiative)

(4) lifelong (generations) Portland friends had to move to Vancouver this yr for family safety / schools. They rented their homes (hoping to return to Portland someday).

Same could very easily happen here.

Be a diligent and responsible voter / community advocate.
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Old 09-10-2018, 12:29 PM
 
Location: WA
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Yes, been going on forever.

Vancouver has always functioned as a Portland suburb so people are much more likely to move there from Portland than they are from say Seattle or Spokane which are a LONG ways away and have their own distinct economies. Seattlites are more likely to move out to their eastern or northern suburbs and Spokane is just a different world on its own with its own suburban areas to the north and east.

What has changed recently I think is the relatively recent skyrocketing real estate market in Portland. Back in the 80s and even the 90s there were endless cheap houses around Portland, especially on the east side. I remember my college roommate bought a house 2 blocks off Hawthorne in the mid-1980s for about $30,000 on a single teacher's salary. That's inconceivable today. So I think a lot of people are getting pushed north into Vancouver by housing prices when that didn't used to be the case. Oregon has also been slow-bleeding its school system for 2-decades now so that is another reason people move north.
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Old 09-10-2018, 12:41 PM
 
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Yes, some companies are moving over as well which bring new residents too. Banfield being the big one in East Vancouver recently.
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Old 09-10-2018, 12:58 PM
 
Location: Monterey County, CA
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Yes, some companies are moving over as well which bring new residents too. Banfield being the big one in East Vancouver recently.
That's a good thing both for Vancouver's economy as well as for its residents who will not need to cross the river for work. Although, I would imagine that the vast majority still do.

Derek
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Old 09-10-2018, 01:01 PM
 
Location: WA
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That's a good thing both for Vancouver's economy as well as for its residents who will not need to cross the river for work. Although, I would imagine that the vast majority still do.

Derek
Goes both ways. A lot of people I taught with in Vancouver actually lived in Portland. A lot of my wife's co-workers in the health care field in Vancouver also live in Portland, especially the younger ones.
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Old 09-10-2018, 01:09 PM
 
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That's a good thing both for Vancouver's economy as well as for its residents who will not need to cross the river for work. Although, I would imagine that the vast majority still do.

Derek
I'm not sure Derek, we actually have very few friends that work in Portland. At least who work every day in Portland.

My husband has many young coworkers who live in Portland and commute to Vancouver. Socially this probably makes sense in your 20s, especially if you're single. Eventually though that income tax starts to bite and the schools over here start to look good.
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Old 09-10-2018, 02:41 PM
 
Location: Monterey County, CA
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I'm not sure Derek, we actually have very few friends that work in Portland. At least who work every day in Portland.

My husband has many young coworkers who live in Portland and commute to Vancouver. Socially this probably makes sense in your 20s, especially if you're single. Eventually though that income tax starts to bite and the schools over here start to look good.
This is good to know. Although I'll be working remotely for my current employer, I would hope there would be some opportunities on the Vancouver side for my wife and kids if/when they look for work. My wife may be going back to work after homeschooling our kids for many years, especially if they attend public high school. Our son will be attending Clark College and most likely looking for part-time work or internships like he did this summer here in Monterey. We are fortunate to have the Naval Post Graduate School (NPS) here and they have really cool research internship opportunties for STEM kids.

Thanks,

Derek
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Old 09-10-2018, 03:03 PM
 
Location: Aiea, Hawaii
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Portland, no sale tax has always brought Vancouver residents to buy things for years. Just saying.
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Old 09-10-2018, 03:13 PM
 
Location: Monterey County, CA
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As we know Californians have been moving to Oregon and Washington for many years; I am no exception. We moved here three years ago due all the typical reasons you see posted here on CD. Portland was our first choice but it just didn’t make sense with Vancouver being so close and having the much bigger benefit of no tax x 2. I honestly said, “Why doesn’t everyone move here?”

Since living here, we have met many affluent locals (Portland and Vancouver) and it’s amazing the number of people who are looking to get out of Portland and into Vancouver, or have already moved to Vancouver from Portland. The number one reason is the tax x 2 benefit.
So if you work in Portland but live Vancouver, you are still hit with Oregon income tax, correct? The only caveat I've heard of is if you telecommute working out of your home the majority of the time.

Conversely, if you live Portland but work in Vancouver doesn't Oregon still reach into your pockets for income tax?

Derek
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