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Old 09-19-2012, 02:22 PM
 
Location: Conejo Valley, CA
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Dude. It has been long established that Asians that come to the US who adopt a western diet drop like flies relative to those who don't.
Are you seriously going to put your head in the sand while the country keeps getting fatter and sicker and our health care spending spirals out of control over totally preventable diseases?!
I don't recall saying anything about putting my head in the sand, I said that the documentary (like others these days) is agenda based. Its not an unbiased overview of diet and health and people that watch it come away with a number of wrong ideas....at least from my experience. The one scientist on the documentary (Campbell) has a decent book (The China Study), its far more valuable than the documentary.

Of course, in today's day and age people can't be bothered with books, they watch agenda driven documentaries and think themselves informed.
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Old 09-19-2012, 04:47 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Lol...if that's what it takes.

What I learned from the documentary is that education is not the problem.
I know tons of people who have seen it and haven't changed their diet one bit.
Not even just to add more veggies. Not asking them to go vegan...just try to add some broc in there sometimes.

For me, there was relatively little new info in this documentary.
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Old 09-19-2012, 07:51 PM
 
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I know tons of people who have seen it and haven't changed their diet one bit.
Not even just to add more veggies. Not asking them to go vegan...just try to add some broc in there sometimes.
I guess its not a very effective documentary then huh?
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Old 09-20-2012, 04:39 AM
 
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Lol...if that's what it takes.

What I learned from the documentary is that education is not the problem.
I know tons of people who have seen it and haven't changed their diet one bit.
Not even just to add more veggies. Not asking them to go vegan...just try to add some broc in there sometimes.

For me, there was relatively little new info in this documentary.
Several of my friends have gone completely vegan after watching this documentary, including two entire families. Afterwards they read The China Study too but FOK started the ball rolling.
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Old 09-20-2012, 05:53 PM
 
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I forget whether the documentary mentions the V word, but The China Study isn't about veganism. The China study advocates a whole food plant-based diet, which ends up being mostly vegan....but a vegan diet can be far removed from a whole foods based diet.

I've seen a number of people trying a "vegan diet" in reference to this documentary and similar sources and they utterly fail to follow anything that resembles the diet that is actually advocated by the people in the documentary. I don't think the documentary really makes this clear....you mainly get an anti-meat message.
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Old 09-20-2012, 06:16 PM
 
Location: Texas
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I guess its not a very effective documentary then huh?
Wasn't aware documentaries were supposed to affect you.
Just inform you.
I don't consider Michael Moore type cherry picking stupid crap 'documentary.'
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Old 09-21-2012, 07:01 AM
 
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The FOK cookbook is really good, one of the best vegan cookbooks I have ever seen.
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Old 09-21-2012, 12:48 PM
 
Location: Conejo Valley, CA
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Wasn't aware documentaries were supposed to affect you.
Just inform you.
If the information contained in documentary doesn't affect you, well, what's the point of watching it?

But the people in the documentary think one of the main problems is information based, so the fact that the documentary fails to affect people is a bit hit to them.... Well that, or they are wrong.....and the documentary served no function other than lining their pocket books.
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Old 09-21-2012, 09:35 PM
 
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If the information contained in documentary doesn't affect you, well, what's the point of watching it?

But the people in the documentary think one of the main problems is information based, so the fact that the documentary fails to affect people is a bit hit to them.... Well that, or they are wrong.....and the documentary served no function other than lining their pocket books.
Some of us gather data, cross-reference it, research validity, ponder it, and use it or discard it.

Not all of us are sheeple.

I think being exposed to all sorts of information can be an opportunity for growth.
Sometimes all you take away is that the world is full of scam artists.
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Old 09-21-2012, 09:47 PM
 
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Some of us gather data, cross-reference it, research validity, ponder it, and use it or discard it.
You don't say? But...if you are pondering it then has affected you.....
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