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Old 11-07-2012, 10:29 AM
 
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OP, the best way to find out info about how your food is raised is to go visit, or talk on phone, with the people raising/growing the food.
Find a local who cares about what he does and ask questions. Please don't rely on a movie or one sided documentary. Then make your choice.
Its your body, your family, your choice.
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Old 11-07-2012, 10:59 AM
 
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Only if your vegan then fish would not be in your diet or any other animal
No, vegetarians don't eat animals of any kind. They might eat animal products such as cheese and eggs.

Vegans don't eat or wear any animal products.
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Old 11-07-2012, 11:16 AM
 
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I made a bet with friends that i would become vegeterian for a month. During that month i discovered a new world! I learned to cook all types of stuff! Before i couldnt even boil water. Everything just tastes sooo good and omg those veggie ribs, ill take em over the regular ones any day!

So after the month was over we went to celebrate at a restaurant i ordered chicken but suddenly i saw everyone devouring all this flesh and all this chewing i was going crazy. I took a bite i gaged and spit it out. Anyway its been 3 months now and i dont miss chicken or pork or any meats. But i gotta admit i do miss seafood. Is there an alternative? I know krab meat has fish in it. I mean if there isnt fine i'll live. When i first got into this i vowed to never eat animals. but This is not why i came here.
The reason i came here is because when i first went into this bet I was disgusted by how chickens were bread. I mean they are no longer chicken! So what about seafood? Is lobster and shrimp excused from all this controversy involved with Perdue and the documentaries like Food inc? Fish is caught i havnt seen anything involving seafood. So are the lobsters at places like Red lobster healthy? Or is there a farm some place where they grow shrimp bigger than normal. Thanks!
Thread topic, folks -- let's stick to this, please.

Thanks.
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Old 11-07-2012, 11:53 AM
 
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No, vegetarians don't eat animals of any kind. They might eat animal products such as cheese and eggs.

Vegans don't eat or wear any animal products.
I know all about that and am quite aware of all of it. I was once very involved with our local vegetarian group when it first begun here. I would even go to yearly vegetarian festivals in PA where they had lectures, vegan food and etc for a week. I learned so much more than what I already knew. And from the people i was associating with too, I met a couple who had a child with health issues due to them being vegan. I saw both sides of the vegetarian lifestyle. Sorry if I am not on topic, but your health choices can influence your life as well as other factors.
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Old 11-09-2012, 08:43 AM
 
Location: Podunk, Cackalacky
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The reason i came here is because when i first went into this bet I was disgusted by how chickens were bread. I mean they are no longer chicken! So what about seafood? Is lobster and shrimp excused from all this controversy involved with Perdue and the documentaries like Food inc?
It sounds like you're thinking factory farming is the sole reason for becoming vegetarian, and since fish aren't factory farmed, you're wondering why not eat them. Of course the suffering that animals endure in factory farms is a huge factor for many people who become vegetarians, but that's not all there is to it. Here are some other factors:

Fish and other ocean animals are indeed animals, and vegetarians don't eat animals. (Of course, some people will eat fish and call themselves vegetarians/pescatarians. As you can see, this is a debated topic which would be good for a different thread.)

Ocean animals suffer when they are brought up in nets and dropped on a boat to suffocate to death. They have brains and nervous systems, and they suffer. Vegetarians do not want animals to suffer.

Other ocean animals, such as dolphins, turtles, and birds, die in fishing nets. Dolphins die in trawler nets | Greenpeace International

Overfishing, which is now the norm, destabilizes the ecosystem. Overfishing: Oceans Are Dying | Ocean Sentry

Hope this helps.
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Old 11-10-2012, 06:29 PM
 
Location: Warren, OH
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Lobster boiled alive in a pot is not very humane. I don't eat clams or things like that. Mollusks. But I know people who are almost completely vegetarian and do not eat cheese or other dairy who will eat those.

I wouldn't eat them even before I became a vegetarian.

Strictly speaking if you eat anything living you are not a vegetarian. A Pescatarian is a person who does not eat meat or poultry. Some eat dairy others don't.
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Old 11-10-2012, 06:40 PM
 
Location: California / Maryland / Cape May
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I made a bet with friends that i would become vegeterian for a month. During that month i discovered a new world! I learned to cook all types of stuff! Before i couldnt even boil water. Everything just tastes sooo good and omg those veggie ribs, ill take em over the regular ones any day!

So after the month was over we went to celebrate at a restaurant i ordered chicken but suddenly i saw everyone devouring all this flesh and all this chewing i was going crazy. I took a bite i gaged and spit it out. Anyway its been 3 months now and i dont miss chicken or pork or any meats. But i gotta admit i do miss seafood. Is there an alternative? I know krab meat has fish in it. I mean if there isnt fine i'll live. When i first got into this i vowed to never eat animals. but This is not why i came here.
The reason i came here is because when i first went into this bet I was disgusted by how chickens were bread. I mean they are no longer chicken! So what about seafood? Is lobster and shrimp excused from all this controversy involved with Perdue and the documentaries like Food inc? Fish is caught i havnt seen anything involving seafood. So are the lobsters at places like Red lobster healthy? Or is there a farm some place where they grow shrimp bigger than normal. Thanks!

Eating Fish and Overfishing – What’s Wrong with Overfishing and Eating Fish

http://www.worldchangecafe.com/2008/...o-and-article/

And many more.
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Old 11-17-2012, 11:35 AM
 
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Lobster boiled alive in a pot is not very humane. I don't eat clams or things like that. Mollusks. But I know people who are almost completely vegetarian and do not eat cheese or other dairy who will eat those.

I wouldn't eat them even before I became a vegetarian.

Strictly speaking if you eat anything living you are not a vegetarian. A Pescatarian is a person who does not eat meat or poultry. Some eat dairy others don't.

Are you saying plants aren't living before you eat them?
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Old 11-17-2012, 01:40 PM
 
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Are you saying plants aren't living before you eat them?
I'm sure he was referring to animals.
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Old 11-17-2012, 05:12 PM
 
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Are you saying plants aren't living before you eat them?
Nah, no one would say that plants aren't living. But we do draw distinctions between humans, animals and plants. Most people perceive a hierarchy of consciousness in that order. Ask most people these questions and you'll get these answers:

Q: If you had to, would you rather kill a person or a dog (cat, rabbit, squirrel, etc.)?
A: A dog.

Q: If you had to, would you rather kill a dog or a carrot?
A: A carrot.

Of course, some people will answer differently, but I believe most people will answer as above. This reflects our perception of the hierarchy of consciousness, and this is where many vegetarians are coming from. I have to kill things to survive, and since I can survive easily on those entities at the lower end of the spectrum, I happily do so.

I hope this helps.
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