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Old 11-20-2012, 08:32 AM
 
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I tell people all the time that they should visit a farm or ranch to know how people raise crops and animals instead of watch'n some "movie". I can teach of how crops and livestock is actually raised, instead of some twisted movie.

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Old 11-20-2012, 01:38 PM
 
Location: The New England part of Ohio
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I am not understanding your belief that the graphic photos of conditions in factory farms are slanted or untrue.
Do you think and animals rights person purchased a mass quantity of pigs and constructed gestational crates to create a moral panic over the cruelty involved with intensive farming? Who would have that kind of money and time?

The meat and dairy industry has a clear motive in attempting to depict "contented cows" and happy chickens - profit.

What motive can one assign to people who support the humane treatment of animals? If one thinks about it, it maked no sense.

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Old 11-21-2012, 06:01 AM
 
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I am not understanding your belief that the graphic photos of conditions in factory farms are slanted or untrue.
Do you think and animals rights person purchased a mass quantity of pigs and constructed gestational crates to create a moral panic over the cruelty involved with intensive farming? Who would have that kind of money and time?

The meat and dairy industry has a clear motive in attempting to depict "contented cows" and happy chickens - profit.

What motive can one assign to people who support the human treatment of animals? If one thinks about it, it maked no sense.
If you want to start a new thread about this I would be more than happy to engage in a civil conversation.
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Old 11-21-2012, 09:29 AM
 
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Old 11-21-2012, 09:43 AM
 
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I tell people all the time that they should visit a farm or ranch to know how people raise crops and animals instead of watch'n some "movie". I can teach of how crops and livestock is actually raised, instead of some twisted movie.
I have eaten mainly a veg_an diet for 30+ years although salmon & bits of meat have slipped in. My dietary choices have been mainly for health reasons.

However, watching wild animals, especially spending my whole summer camping & hiking in Yellowstone, has made me much more sensitive to the actual killing of those animals.

I would love to come visit your farm. However, seeing those baby calves would turn me off to even the thought of veal. But watching the actual slaughter, however humanely, would probably haunt me for a long, long time. And I can not even compete with those who are purely ethical veg_ans.

I certainly respect your choices and even agree that animal protein contains elements essential to human health. And I think it is so cool that you are trying some vegetarian meals yourself!
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Old 11-21-2012, 10:43 AM
 
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I am not understanding your belief that the graphic photos of conditions in factory farms are slanted or untrue.
Do you think and animals rights person purchased a mass quantity of pigs and constructed gestational crates to create a moral panic over the cruelty involved with intensive farming? Who would have that kind of money and time?

The meat and dairy industry has a clear motive in attempting to depict "contented cows" and happy chickens - profit.

What motive can one assign to people who support the humane treatment of animals? If one thinks about it, it maked no sense.
I am what you call a "factory farmer". I guess I have been all my life. I have NEVER seen what they show in movies such as food inc. I have been to hundreds of "factory farms", which by the way are just large farms. Certain "groups" have labeled them "factory". I could put a label on some of these radical "groups" but i keep that to my self.
Yes, there are a certain few that give a farmer a bad name. A VERY small percentage are like that. I could call all white people stupid red necks, or "crackers".....but that is not the whole group.(just people like me are the stupid red necks right? ) I could say the same about vegetarians, but as a group they are good people.......just a few jerks. same as people who eat meat. I think you get my point.

If you want to judge a group, learn about them first by get'n first hand experience. That is what I'm doing, again. Did for a bit this past yr. But need to get more serious.

Anyway, any other questions I'll gladly answer. Have a happy thanksgiving!
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