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Old 06-21-2014, 10:11 PM
 
Location: Idaho/Wyoming
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There is only a generally accepted definition if you think anybody that differs from you is a "fake vegan". For example, there are many vegans that don't worry about traces of dairy, animal byproducts, honey, etc. If all "vegan" means is that you follow some restrict lifestyle rules then it really shouldn't matter if someone says "that meal is vegan", "I'm being vegan today", etc.

But words are defined by how they are used in the language. Ultimately its just a word.


You seem to be suggest that you're an actual vegan and those that don't 100% agree with you are fake vegans and are making it more difficult for you. I would suggest that the "fake" vegans aren't very concerned about this.
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Old 06-22-2014, 05:53 AM
 
Location: In a house
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I'm not a vegan OR a vegetarian, and I agree 100% with Susannah18. Regardless of the variations and divergences of vegetarianism and veganism, each has a generally accepted, if loosely defined, minimal criteria.

If one poster wants to nitpick a word and claim that it's "just a word" then there's really no point in discussing anything, anywhere, at any time. Because in the end, they're all "just words."
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Old 06-22-2014, 11:19 AM
 
Location: Conejo Valley, CA
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I'm not a vegan OR a vegetarian, and I agree 100% with Susannah18. Regardless of the variations and divergences of vegetarianism and veganism, each has a generally accepted, if loosely defined, minimal criteria.
Generally accepted by who? You'd have to survey the population to get an idea about what the "generally accepted" definition is, not just a handful of hardcore vegetarians/vegans. But even beyond that, there isn't total agreement about what it mans to be "vegan" by vegan groups. For example some don't think honey or byproducts should be a critical issue and instead a personal choice.

Words change meaning all the time and "vegan" is used, in the general culture, to refer to food and not the lifestyle all the time. "That's a vegan meal" would mean that is a meal that doesn't contain meet, dairy or eggs. "I ate vegan today" would mean that you didn't eat meet, dairy or eggs that day. And so on.
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Old 06-22-2014, 09:54 PM
 
Location: California
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I know a lot of people who "eat" vegetarian or even vegan but limit it to diet and not to a lifestyle (ie: they wear wool and use leather products, etc.).

While it always amuses me to watch the infighting of the in-crowd I have to say that the arguments over labels make everyone seem a little dim.
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Old 06-22-2014, 09:55 PM
 
Location: California
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Old 06-23-2014, 12:28 AM
 
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While it always amuses me to watch the infighting of the in-crowd I have to say that the arguments over labels make everyone seem a little dim.
Couldn't agree more. How about encouraging baby vegans rather than bickering over nonsense?
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Old 06-23-2014, 06:48 AM
 
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Couldn't agree more. How about encouraging baby vegans rather than bickering over nonsense?
You can't do that, because milk is not vegan and the healthiest food for an infant is milk from its mother's breast.
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Old 06-23-2014, 10:12 AM
 
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I know a lot of people who "eat" vegetarian or even vegan but limit it to diet and not to a lifestyle (ie: they wear wool and use leather products, etc.).
That's precisely why people refer to a "vegan diet" versus "veganism".
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Old 06-23-2014, 10:30 AM
 
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You can't do that, because milk is not vegan and the healthiest food for an infant is milk from its mother's breast.
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Old 06-23-2014, 04:17 PM
 
Location: California
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All or nothing is worse than zero tolerance. I'm just saying.

I personally think people should eat/drink whatever makes them happy and healthy. It won't be the same for everyone.
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