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Well, I think the problem is there in the sentence
"I used to use a lot of oil in cooking everyday as well as drizzling it on foods"
Instead of going extreme and eliminating all oil from your diet, why not just be moderate, use a small amount of olive oil (one of the least processed oils, and with the minimum saturated fat) for cooking where appropriate?
I use almost 100% olive oil when cooking, but just a bit. For example, between a teaspoon and a tablespoon of oil is plenty to do most sauteeing/stir-frying/frying in a standard iron skillet. I never "drizzle" oil over my food; that is just disgusting to me.
By the way my cholesterol is always rated excellent.
This is how I feel. I never was a drizzle person. I like to know our much food I am eating and drizzling is easy to over do.
I measure. It isn't a weight loss thing, I am not attempting to lose weight. It's a lifestyle thing. When dealing with foods such as oil, I want to know how much I am eating and serving with high density potentially unhealthy foods.
A tablespoon of the oil of your choice isn't going to kill anyone.
People following a Standard American Diet (SAD) eat WAY MORE fats, grease, and high cholesterol foods that non-meat eaters of any sort. of fat than those who do not eat a SAD diet.
My cholesterol is excellent
The idea of drizzling oil is just disgusting to me. Eschewing ALL OIL seems unnecessary and extreme.
This is how I feel. I never was a drizzle person. I like to know our much food I am eating and drizzling is easy to over do.
I measure. It isn't a weight loss thing, I am not attempting to lose weight. It's a lifestyle thing. When dealing with foods such as oil, I want to know how much I am eating and serving with high density potentially unhealthy foods.
A tablespoon of the oil of your choice isn't going to kill anyone.
People following a Standard American Diet (SAD) eat WAY MORE fats, grease, and high cholesterol foods that non-meat eaters of any sort. of fat than those who do not eat a SAD diet.
My cholesterol is excellent
The idea of drizzling oil is just disgusting to me. Eschewing ALL OIL seems unnecessary and extreme.
The lifestyles we choose, the foods we eat, and the ways which we prepare those foods, or to let others prepare our foods, are all a matter of personal choice. Those choices and why, are our choices, and we benefit or regress our health because of those choices. What is good for one may not be good for another, as we all have uniqueness.
Bloodwork tests are just that, they assay the health of our blood. The cause of most heart attacks and strokes seems to be endothelial dysfunction, which cannot be measured by bloodwork tests alone. 50% of coronary deaths take place to people with no signs, good bloodwork numbers, exercise, etc. Measuring endothelial function can help diagnose coronary artery disease, heart attack, and strokes, which can give the patient time for improved lifestyle changes. I had a very bad heart attack, and before that I had pretty good numbers. My cardiologist believes that oils even olive oil, are detrimental to endothelial function. So, I was oil-free for nearly two years, and for the past year, have used avocado oil in extremely sparse amounts on occasion. So eschewing all oil may seem unnecessary and extreme to you but it may be the difference between life and death to others. Again, everyone makes their own choices, and no one should determine right or wrong for other's choices, the focus should be on our own health and what is best for ourselves.
I use oils sparingly, but I need them for certain dishes. I like a crispy pancake, and it won't happen without oil. Miyokos butter, safflower oil, earth balance, pricey olive oil (very sparingly), avocado oil. I add it to baked goods, but maybe a tablespoon or so. Roasted walnut oil i buy once a year. I never gain weight, and our bodies need fats. I eat pecans, pistachios, pine nuts, and even make my own 'Parmesan" from those. I grind several types, add salt, and food yeast. I take it to restaurants, and put on my marinara foods. Some vegans are almost apoplectic when I tell them that I do ingest certain types of oil. If they don't use oil, fine, but no need to dictate to others just because 'guru A" gave a lecture, and he, too, almost became apoplectic. lol.
I use EVOO or avocado oil for cooking when necessary but sparingly. I have high cholesterol due to family history and minimize fat and animal products. I agree that too low of a cholesterol level can be damaging. A friend of mine had coronary artery disease and his cardiologist put him on cholesterol medication. His numbers got down very low. He ended up dying due to cancer. My family has no history of cancer. We do have heart disease though, and I try to watch my fats and keep my weight down. I won't use coconut oil. Coconut oil contains over 80% saturated fat. I don't care if people say "it's healthy fat"--no, it's not. On the scale, some fats are better than others but all of them should be used sparingly (think the very tip of the pyramid). There is no clinical study that shows Omega 3's lower the "bad" cholesterol. They help raise the HDL, but have not been shown to lower LDL. Popping a fish oil capsule and expecting to lower your LDL--nope, not that easy.
This is how I feel. I never was a drizzle person. I like to know our much food I am eating and drizzling is easy to over do.
I measure. It isn't a weight loss thing, I am not attempting to lose weight. It's a lifestyle thing. When dealing with foods such as oil, I want to know how much I am eating and serving with high density potentially unhealthy foods.
A tablespoon of the oil of your choice isn't going to kill anyone.
People following a Standard American Diet (SAD) eat WAY MORE fats, grease, and high cholesterol foods that non-meat eaters of any sort. of fat than those who do not eat a SAD diet.
My cholesterol is excellent
The idea of drizzling oil is just disgusting to me. Eschewing ALL OIL seems unnecessary and extreme.
Oils are technically processed stuff, you're supposed to get your fats in a natural and unprocessed state such as directly from the plant or animal flesh itself. Getting it processed and pushed out using machines is a bad way to get your oils. One of the leading causes of cellular oxidation stress is seed oils that are highly inflammatory. I would avoid all seed oils that are heat processed.
I think, that if following a vegan diet, the lack of fat consumption from other (animal) sources would far offset whatever harm comes from oils.
Many doctors would disagree with this because harmful oils create oxidation stress in your body which causes your cells to reject minerals and nutrients. It won't matter how much vitamins or clean foods you eat your cells will age and die quicker. The most dangerous oils are soybean, canola, corn oils they are highly oxidized and contains pesticides. If you eat a healthy diet free of these oils you'll be better off. Extra virgin olive oil is the best as well as avocado and coconut. A good oil should not require heat to make because heat causes oxidation.
I have had anti-oil vegans all but scream at me that I must not use oil ! No oil they insist. I wonder if they eat at Asian restaurants where sesame oil is king.(or peanut butter oil) I use oil. Melt brand vegan butter, grape seed oil, safflower oil, olive oil. Sparingly. I do not have a foot dangling in the grave, nor do I gain weight or feel horrible. Nothing beats a big blob of Melt brand 'butter" smothering a crumpet, and pancake. Add a bit of date syrup, or maple syrup. Yum. (still not keeling over)
I have had anti-oil vegans all but scream at me that I must not use oil ! No oil they insist. I wonder if they eat at Asian restaurants where sesame oil is king.(or peanut butter oil) I use oil. Melt brand vegan butter, grape seed oil, safflower oil, olive oil. Sparingly. I do not have a foot dangling in the grave, nor do I gain weight or feel horrible. Nothing beats a big blob of Melt brand 'butter" smothering a crumpet, and pancake. Add a bit of date syrup, or maple syrup. Yum. (still not keeling over)
That's odd... oil comes from plants, so why would those vegans make a big fuss about it?
I live in the SF Bay area, long known as Ground Zero for food trends / fads,
but I've never run into no-oil people, vegan or otherwise.
Never heard of it being a problem. What's the reasoning?
BTW, I believe maple and date syrup are mostly fructose, just as bas as the sucrose in white sugar.
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