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Why do you have to make the server aware of your dietary choices tho? Just tell them what you're ordering...ha. My fiance isn't a vegetarian but he will order vegetarian dishes or fish sometimes. He doesn't explain himself...he just orders something off the menu. Nobody has ever been mean to him or criticized him in a restaurant for ordering a vegetarian dish.
AND....you're looking for approval online because you posted it in the 1st place...confirmation that you are being manly for what you order in a restaurant. It makes no sense to me. Just do you....& order what you want. That's more manly IMO.
Because people who are vegan or vegetarian might need to check if the dish is really vegan or vegetarian. How is this hard to understand? I had a friend who was vegan because he was allergic to milk, and a lot of times the dish would look vegan but would actually be cooked with butter. Some things might be cooked in animal fat too, or have some other meat product.
I would just point out that elephants, race horses, bulls, rhinos (considered the most dangerous animal), and gorillas are all vegetarians. None of those is exactly a "wimpy" creature.
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Because people who are vegan or vegetarian might need to check if the dish is really vegan or vegetarian. How is this hard to understand? I had a friend who was vegan because he was allergic to milk, and a lot of times the dish would look vegan but would actually be cooked with butter. Some things might be cooked in animal fat too, or have some other meat product.
Ha...if there's a question about an item on a menu.....then ask. The better restaurants are super good about it tho. That's why there are vegetarian items that are separate. edit: AND explained
IMO that's totally different than the O.P. being upset about servers "always" being mean to him....or asking a forum if it's manly for him to be a vegetarian. As if he just wants everybody to say "yes you're manly". That's the part that isn't so manly IMO. Do you think so?
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Ha...if there's a question about an item on a menu.....then ask. The better restaurants are super good about it tho. That's why there are vegetarian items that are separate. edit: AND explained
IMO that's totally different than the O.P. being upset about servers "always" being mean to him....or asking a forum if it's manly for him to be a vegetarian. As if he just wants everybody to say "yes you're manly". That's the part that isn't so manly IMO. Do you think so?
Absolutely, the better restaurants are super good about that. And in my experience, one does not find "the better restaurants" in rural appalachia. Most of the restaurants where I was, if you didn't get food poisoning you counted yourself lucky. I recall one restaurant being shut down because the staff had been bleaching the old chicken before frying it, because it had gone bad and they didn't want to throw it away. The grocery store got in trouble because when their meat went bad, it was unwrapped from its packaging, the rotten meat was scraped off, then they repackaged the meat to sell. Another restaurant had rats and a sewage backup. And so on.
Lastly, goodness, who cares if he is insecure about his manliness? Or if he is exaggerating about "always" getting teased? Mocking him and criticizing him isn't very helpful. One could give the OP the benefit of the doubt and interpret his post to be asking "why is it seen by others as unmanly"?
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Lastly, goodness, who cares if he is insecure about his manliness? Or if he is exaggerating about "always" getting teased? Mocking him and criticizing him isn't very helpful. One could give the OP the benefit of the doubt and interpret his post to be asking "why is it seen by others as unmanly"?
I wasn't mocking him....I was telling him to be confident in himself.....because IMO most ppl don't see being vegetarian as unmanly, specially servers that want their tips..ha. Most don't care so IMO....it seems super weird that he would have so many ppl mocking him for it....even if they thought to themselves he was being unmanly. BUT he wouldn't know that. How many grown adults mock other ppl for their diet? It really makes no sense.
edit: Confidence & men that don't care what strangers think is strong & manly IMO. They would disrespect that behavior... (AND the ppl)...so ofc it isn't going to mean anything to a "manly man".
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Having lived and dined in many different locales, my take on this is that the waitress wasn't snickering because you're a male vegetarian, but at the concept of vegetarianism itself, which is not embraced in many rural and southern towns.
Absolutely, the better restaurants are super good about that. And in my experience, one does not find "the better restaurants" in rural appalachia. Most of the restaurants where I was, if you didn't get food poisoning you counted yourself lucky. I recall one restaurant being shut down because the staff had been bleaching the old chicken before frying it, because it had gone bad and they didn't want to throw it away. The grocery store got in trouble because when their meat went bad, it was unwrapped from its packaging, the rotten meat was scraped off, then they repackaged the meat to sell. Another restaurant had rats and a sewage backup. And so on.
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That's not just limited to "rural Appalachia." When were were in California, they caught Safeway, one of the biggest grocery chains there is, bleaching poultry and scraping meat to repackage it.
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Lastly, goodness, who cares if he is insecure about his manliness? Or if he is exaggerating about "always" getting teased? Mocking him and criticizing him isn't very helpful. One could give the OP the benefit of the doubt and interpret his post to be asking "why is it seen by others as unmanly"?
Just my opinion.
That's the point. Because vegetarian or vegan isn't isn'tunmanly. No one cares if someone is vegetarian or vegan. You do you man, no one cares. What people disagree with, which includes the exaggerating "always" when it was once, is the virtue signaling throughout the post.
She probably laughed because she know there is nothing on the menu without meat except french fries and onion rings.
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