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Old 08-30-2009, 03:09 PM
 
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In the grocery store the other day, I saw a package of Vegetarian Cheddar Cheese, manufactured by Tillamook Cheese Co -- I assume it also contains vegetable-based rennet.
I looked on their website and couldn't find that cheese. I wouldn't trust a thing Tillamook Cheese said.

They are a big deal here in Oregon. "Tour the factory!" - but I can assure you, they won't tell you or show you this:

A friend was an inspector and told me they were fined several times for not caring for their cows. He, a hunter, was ticked off by the way they kept their cows - in mud a quarter of the way up their legs, with hooves rotting (very painful), out in the rain constantly (their coats begin rotting), etc.

Don't believe that "farmer-owned, happy-cow" PR. Sadly, it's very misleading.

If one must have cheese or milk, one can find honest-to-goodness real local farmers who care for their animals.
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Old 08-30-2009, 03:20 PM
 
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I used to eat cheese until i found out how it's made. They scrap the insides of calves stomachs to add to the cheese ( it's called rennet ). The calves has to be killed for this to happen.
I used to eat eggs until i moved here to the farm and see what they eat.
There is synthetic rennet as artic point out. Vegetable rennet, microbial rennet...that's all that I know of.

There's a brand of incredibly awesome vegan cheese & butter from a very small company in Hood River, Oregon. It's also incredibly, awesomely expensive seeing as how it's made by hand. I just don't see how vegan cheese can be massively produced for a reasonable price.
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Old 08-30-2009, 04:39 PM
 
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I looked on their website and couldn't find that cheese. I wouldn't trust a thing Tillamook Cheese said.

They are a big deal here in Oregon. "Tour the factory!" - but I can assure you, they won't tell you or show you this:

A friend was an inspector and told me they were fined several times for not caring for their cows. He, a hunter, was ticked off by the way they kept their cows - in mud a quarter of the way up their legs, with hooves rotting (very painful), out in the rain constantly (their coats begin rotting), etc.

Don't believe that "farmer-owned, happy-cow" PR. Sadly, it's very misleading.

If one must have cheese or milk, one can find honest-to-goodness real local farmers who care for their animals.
I'm really disappointed to hear this about Tillamook -- I know the brand because I used to live in Oregon, but I didn't know about how they treat the animals .....

Next time I go to the store, I'll try to remember to bring my reading glasses (*sighs*) so I can look closely at the label to see what they're saying about the cheese.
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Old 09-06-2009, 04:20 PM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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There is a food coop near me that sells Amish made cheese with vegetable rennet
Thanks for the heads up, i'll check into it.

Another thing that bothers me is i found some vegetarian cheese locally at a grocery store but one of the ingredients is gelatin...isn't that still an animal
product (from hooves...)?
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Old 09-06-2009, 04:23 PM
 
Location: Bradenton, Florida
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Parmalat. Shelf stable milk products.

As far as vegetables go...I've always thought they lasted a pretty long time in those steel cans.
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Old 09-06-2009, 04:33 PM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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I used to eat eggs until i moved here to the farm and see what they eat.
Sorry guys... i meant 'what the chickens eat' ...not what the eggs eat!!
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Old 09-11-2009, 03:37 PM
 
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I'm really disappointed to hear this about Tillamook -- I know the brand because I used to live in Oregon, but I didn't know about how they treat the animals .....

Next time I go to the store, I'll try to remember to bring my reading glasses (*sighs*) so I can look closely at the label to see what they're saying about the cheese.
Update: I had my glasses today when I found Tillamook vegetarian cheddar at the natural foods store. According to the label, it's made with vegetable rennet and with milk from cows that are not given any growth hormones.

I'll assume that much is true, given truth-in-labelling laws, but won't offer any opinion on how the cows are treated, since I don't know anything it.
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Old 09-11-2009, 10:47 PM
 
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So Dark, did you get that cheese and try it?
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Old 09-12-2009, 06:58 AM
 
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So Dark, did you get that cheese and try it?
You know, I didn't. I kept thinking of what you'd written about the treatment of Tillamook cows .....

However, I did get a chunk of mild cheddar, vegetarian and organic, imported from Ireland -- and it's pretty good.
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